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Aerobatic 3D Contest > insane tail piro rate
 
 
sam tse
Senior Heliman
Location: kensington, london UK

hi guys,

anyone know how they make the tail spin so fast in those 'ripper' like manoveurs?

cheers guys

alignuk
synergy
miniature aircraft
west london models
robotbirds
08-17-2007 08:59 PM
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Jasper7
Key Veteran
Location: Birmingham , UK

turn the gyro off

Jasper 7
T-Rex 600N
Sceadu EVO 50
Lisa, the kids & a Morgage
08-17-2007 10:13 PM
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sam tse
Senior Heliman
Location: kensington, london UK

oh right, so switch gyro on lowest gain then switch back to normal gain to recover?

alignuk
synergy
miniature aircraft
west london models
robotbirds
08-18-2007 01:59 AM
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jb_turner
Key Veteran
Location: USA

Just stop the tail

JB "Do a SEARCH" Turner
08-18-2007 02:02 AM
 
 
frankg11
Veteran
Location: Bellevue, WA

ATV's control the piro rate on Futaba Gyros.

Crank it up to max.

That will give you insane rates. If not enough for you bigger or wider tail blades if they will fit.

Also make sure you have mechanically maxed throw on the gyro first.

Then crank up ATV's.
08-18-2007 07:33 AM
 
 
BOONY
Senior Heliman
Location: Morecambe UK

dont do it sam

i maxed mine out at clubman and you saw the results

Adam

Remember crashing is stupid and you could end up crying in front of your friends!
08-18-2007 01:40 PM
 
 
Rob Shaw
Veteran
Location: Egham, Surrey, UK

The whole tail gearbox twisted round 45 degrees on my 600N when I did one on Saturday, I think its definately a manouver that punishes the heli to the extreme..... saying that, its not gonna stop me doing more of them !!


08-28-2007 11:12 PM
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n55w131
New Heliman
Location: Ketchikan, Alaska

I second Boony!

I did it. Set my ATV's to 150% and my 600 piro was a blurr. No kidding! It was awsum right up to the point where it threw my tube out of the tail far enough to dis-engauge the torque tube and I don't need to spell out the rest. $$$
09-03-2007 09:45 AM
 
 
BOONY
Senior Heliman
Location: Morecambe UK

n55w131

i gotcha beat mines on video LOL
Adam

Remember crashing is stupid and you could end up crying in front of your friends!
09-11-2007 11:57 AM
 
 
Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

Not only do you have to max out your ATV but also your Dual Rate aswell, that'll give INSANE piro speeds. Glue the tail box on with a bit of green loctite on the 600N stops any movement.
Wouldn't recommend maxing out on a gyro that wont allow any sort of "softening " on the stops mind, dare say the gears will wince when you let go of the stick!!!
09-27-2007 08:23 PM
 
 
nojohnny101
Elite Veteran
Location: 10 miles north of Cincy, OHIO

hey
Quote 
n55w131

i gotcha beat mines on video LOL
Adam


where's it at!!.....please post!



Thanks
~Will-i-am~
09-27-2007 08:34 PM
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BOONY
Senior Heliman
Location: Morecambe UK

http://www.fly3dx.com/3dxClips/club...lsFreestyle.wmv

there ya go

Adam

Remember crashing is stupid and you could end up crying in front of your friends!
09-30-2007 06:04 PM
 
 
WJackson
Key Veteran
Location: Smyrna, Delaware

Ouchy!!!! You didnt look like you were going to cry though!

Bill Jackson
President- Delaware Heli Association
www.DelawareHeli.com
10-23-2007 02:09 PM
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BOONY
Senior Heliman
Location: Morecambe UK

LOL ^^^^^

was one of those time u jus had to laugh i was already gunna finish 5th so it made no difference

Adam

Remember crashing is stupid and you could end up crying in front of your friends!
10-27-2007 06:39 PM
 
 
nadavbarak
Heliman
Location:

If you are using Solig G gyro you can use the "Pirouette Speed" parameter

to set the Pirouette speed and atv switch to change it during the flight.
The Solid G has some other parameters (special Pirouette menu options) that deals with the Pirouette issue, such as:
1. Pirouette stop speed (right or left)
2. Pirouette Balance (right & left)

and many more.

Best regards,
Nadav Barak.
01-16-2008 04:28 AM
 
 
jbc98c
Senior Heliman
Location: washington

I wouldn't do it to any of the helis in your list. With the 600n sport, or at least a metal tail box with a belt, you could do it. The problem is that there is so much weight in the tail that it pushes too much force rearward and wont be able to handle it. I've done it with a r50, but every once in a while i would make the tail gear look like a pulley and the belt would only have half of the notches on it. The r90 is stout enough to do it as well. The synergys have had a lot of problems with their tails as it is, so I wouldn't risk it on one of those.

But, that's just my input.

OH! YOU FLY TOY HELICOPTERS?!
01-29-2008 01:19 AM
 
 
robhurlin
Veteran
Location: Pretoria, South Africa

I maxed out the ATVs for my 401 on my T-Rex 450. Not too bad piro rate.

Then I fitted the Spartan 760 gyro and maxed the ATVs to 150% as before. Oh My Word - I literally couldn't see the tail to know when to stop it from the blindingly fast piro!

Rob.
02-23-2008 04:27 PM
 
 
Richardmid1
Senior Heliman
Location: Leeds, England

On some gyros like CSM's you can increase/decrease the piro start/stop rate, if I were to max my rudder dual rates I would decrease the start/stop rate to prevent gears stripping or belts slipping!

Eat, sleep, 3D, crash, repair, repeat...
02-25-2008 02:27 PM
 
 
helicraze
Veteran
Location: Victoria - Australia

You can also program a mix so that when you input the rudder, it will turn down the gain value.

It will be faster than you could believe! Of course crank up the trave adjustment and dual rate
04-20-2008 08:17 AM
 
 
robhurlin
Veteran
Location: Pretoria, South Africa

Uh oh.

I was in such a fast piro last Sunday that my 450SE threw the battery, ESC and canopy. Then the blades hit the tailboom and threw the tail assembly. Then the remaining parts landed on the deck. That battery was stuck down with a full length layer of velcro and had 2 velcro straps as well.

Yes, it was an insane tail piro rate!

Rob.
04-20-2008 07:13 PM
 
 
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