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Bergen R/C Helicopters > G10 lower and upper side frames
 
 
cmartin
Veteran
Location: Kouts IN

I tell ya, I have had a bergen gasser and have had no problems with things coming loose and vibrations. I believe it is a sound heli.
I find it amusing how when an engineer gets involved things are not designed right and there is an better way of doing things. I believe after the mods that syon thinks needs to be made comparing it to a bone stock bergen, there will be no difference in performance and longitivity, just one being more complex and more expensive to make.
I think that custom home made add ons are cool, but on this heli, its simply not needed, just proper tuning and building practices.
02-24-2008 10:17 PM
 
 
RCHelicopterGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

Many people don't realize that things are often designed the way they are for a reason. Every person with a paper engineering degree thinks they know the best way to design a helicopter. But that's cool... if the guy wants to reinvent the wheel, the God bless the free market economy.
02-24-2008 10:30 PM
 
 
lperagallo
Senior Heliman
Location: Westfield, Indiana, USA

I just caught up with this thread myself. I certainly don't understand why someone would re-invent something that works well to start with. I fly 2 Bergens and I have never had a problem with the frames or drive train. I will also admit that I have had my fair share of crashes over the past two years and the frames have only been a problem once. Seeing as though I flew it into the ground from a loop started at 8 feet at full power, you'd expect things to break.

I have never chewed up a main gear and as long as you take the time to set it up right, you should be fine. While I am not flying with a load doing AP work, I do throw the heli around.

I also fly a Bergen Turbine and haven't had any frame issues either. This thing fully fueled comes in at over 18 lbs and I fly it hard also. While I haven't crashed it yet, I expect it will hold up as well as the Gasser.

Good luck on spending more money for your mods for little in return IMHO.

Lou

Bergen Intrepid EB, G-26, 720mm; Bergen Turbine, Wren MW54; Raptor 50V2, OS50-Hyper
03-03-2008 04:14 PM
 
 
CT.Chopper
Senior Heliman
Location: Meriden, CT

LOL he finally took me off the ignore list

Rob Landry.
03-03-2008 10:48 PM
 
 
syon
Heliman
Location: tualatin,OR

The cost factor hasn't been that insatisfactory-

The cost to repair on my own, cut and make replacement parts is less than what it would normally be if i ordered it from a vendor.
albeit , the replacement cost is a given if you don't know how to Make your own replacement parts.

with that said, i can understand the negative feedback on here from a few. but thats to be expected.
So far since making my replacement parts, i have yet to have to order anything major or even minor, other than clutch bells.

a heli is like a marriage, most of the time it works, the rest it don't.
03-06-2008 02:55 PM
 
 
CRJBenny
Senior Heliman
Location: Pocatello, ID

Syon,
Nice work. There is no harm in checking it out right?

Chris,
I am amazed at how good you guys are to work with, Bounce ideas off. I am sure you had to bite your tounge when I sent you pics of my shot at revising the Observer mount. Which by the way might go back to the original Bergen config. You guys are great.

Ben Cardon
03-20-2008 09:19 PM
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vinver
New Heliman
Location: Enfield,NS Canada

Hmmm.

Hmmm,
I've been following this thread with interest, it started out as a simple question and has progressed into an engineering discussion, then into a put-your-money-where your mouth is debate. So I have a few questions,
1. Why no Titanium? Other than a plastic helicopter that shares the same name, do any heli manufacturers use Ti in any applications? 2.Would anybody shell out for the coolest bling at your field?
3. I just bought an old X-cell with white G10 sideframes, black upper sideframes, Canfield balancer on aluminum fan, a quarter-inch thick G-10 middle frame partition part- are these all Bergen upgrades that got the company's foot in the door?
4. Lastly, where are the pictures of this Stainless Special? Sounds cool, it only takes a minute to snap a pic and upload it. If you want to sell some parts eventually, let's see what you've got!
Cheers, Vince
03-27-2008 12:48 AM
 
 
RCHelicopterGuy
Senior Heliman
Location: Michigan

To paraphrase something I've heard Chris say before, "Sure I can build you a titanium helicopter. How much are you willing to pay for it?"
03-27-2008 01:55 AM
 
 
Shadowfox
Senior Heliman
Location: ABQ,NM

Hey vinver that sounds like a X-cell 30 I have with Bergen goodies on it.

I think its cool to see how helis have changed looking back.I'll never sell it.
03-27-2008 11:13 PM
 
 
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