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Speedbird370
Heliman
Location: Sweden

Sounds good, hazchem88

Looking forward to see some pics,
and of cause video of it in the air

/Perry
07-04-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

1st picture.
I added grilled vents on the front.

I adjusted blade pitch today. The blades are sooo long it's a little tricky.

I'll take more pic's (including custom metalwork) when it's all finished.

check out the ominous sky....

07-05-2007 Over year old.
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hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

I now have the motor mount fitted.
Also have tried my custom clutch adaptor. That all seems to fit.
I'll post some pictures of these very soon.


So in theory I have everything I need to start testing it.

Just need a few bolts, check CofG, and to check through everything before I spool up for the first time.


exciting but worrying
07-30-2007 Over year old.
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hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

here's a picture of the finished motor mount and clutch adaptor

07-31-2007 Over year old.
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Speedbird370
Heliman
Location: Sweden

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here's a picture of the finished motor mount and clutch adaptor

Very cool hazchem88,

Nice to see the progress
hope to see some vids of it in the air soon

I have aprox 6 hours of flyingtime with my XLV - E now
its so nice to fly

by the way,
don’t forget to tighten the adaptor against the Actro so it doesn’t wobble in the motor mount, if it start wobbling this will destroy the clutch and motor mount bearings...

/Perry
07-31-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

yes, I tightened the actro adaptor. I put two flats on it for the grub screws (in my brass adaptor) to tighten onto.

I fired up the ESC today to confirm motor is spinning the right way.
I've put the blades on.

Tomorrow I am ready to test hover to check the tail set up....



1 question, does the Power Jazz fan only switch on when the ESC gets hot?
Mine doesn't spin yet
08-02-2007 Over year old.
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Speedbird370
Heliman
Location: Sweden

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1 question, does the Power Jazz fan only switch on when the ESC gets hot?
Mine doesn't spin yet

Yes, It only spin when the ESC is hot,

/Perry
08-02-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

I hovered it for the first time today!

I was very nervous, because of it's huge cost and huge size!

Also, as I only had a small space, I only hovered for a short time - just to essentially check everything roughly works.
I will go to a bigger space to do some trimming.

This short test flight is also an oppurtunity for me to just check 'nothing falls off'!
I can now go over it all and check the bolts and connectors to see if all is OK.

It takes forever to spin down! there is so much momentum in those blades. You can see know why there is a brake option for the R22.

I've fitted a data logger with optical RPM, so I'll check what that has to say.
08-03-2007 Over year old.
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hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

OK, post flight check.

It's good job I kept the first flight very short. There are a few nuts that worked loose.
So I applied more locktight and tightened the bolts.

But big shame, you are right Perry, the S9252 servos VARIO RECOMMEND do not appear to be strong enough.
It looks like the 2 aileron servos have stripped gears.

Perry, are you using 4x 9351 - maybe I need those.

Not sure why vario say use s9252 when these will barely make a hover before they are destroyed.
08-03-2007 Over year old.
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hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

futaba now make S9156 which has almost double the torque of the S9351
(S9252 91.6oz, S9351 153oz, S9156 272oz)
S9156 and S9351 are about the same price from my sources.
Do you think it would be best to play extra safe and go for the S9156. I am nervous about breaking any more servos :<
08-03-2007 Over year old.
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Speedbird370
Heliman
Location: Sweden

Yes I’m using the 9351 Futabas,
they have plenty of torque to move those big blades
I have 6 hours in the air with my XLV now and the
cyclic feel is nice and crisp

If the 9156 fit in the XLV frames, go with them,
my experience is that powerful servos is always good to have, as long as you have the power supply to feed them, like the Emcotec box
I think the 9156 will draw some serious amps to deliver that kind of torque,
272oz x 4 is a impressive 1088oz on the pitch, that should be enough even for a 3-blade main rotor setup,
or if you want to do an fly-barless thing with the V-staby system, then the strong servos are necessary too

also, check that you don’t have any binding between the cyclic servos
this can destroy the servo gears too

Did you check the motor temp after the flight ?

I have noticed that the temp goes up from 60 to around 80 Celsius when I started flying it around other the just hovering,
I’m going to fit a computer fan to the motor mount, blowing fresh air over the motor so it doesn’t over heat on hot summer days

/Perry
08-03-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

NOTE: earlier I mentioned using S9252 that broke, I used S9206!
I confused them with S9252 that I use in my Chinook project!
08-08-2007 Over year old.
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DON SEAY
Heliman
Location: INDY home of the 500

XLV

S9351 Futaba

SPECS: Speed: .16 sec/60° @ 4.8v; .13 sec/60° @ 6.0V
Torque: 153 oz-in @ 4.8V; 192 oz-in @ 6V

Speedbird the s9351 is a good choice at 6v you have 192 oz. @ .13 sec/60deg swing. Thats almost as good as the s9252 but with almost twice the torque
Also I have S9206 in my XLV gasser and S9206 in my Vario turbine Lama with no problems. But I will be using S9351 in the next XLV.

Regards
DS

Jet A is number #1
08-08-2007 Over year old.
 
 
DON SEAY
Heliman
Location: INDY home of the 500

XLV electric conversion MOUNT



Speedbird370
I have finished the mount as I wait for the XLV to ship.
I used double ceramic bearings to give it a little more support along with some isolators to help on some vibration from the motor. I had an Ion that I had to do the same with on the Actro motor.If you take a dial indicator and run it on tne housing of the motor. Somethings it does not run true with the shaft.
Thanks again for all your help, I will try to keep you updated.

Regards,
Don

Jet A is number #1
08-13-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

I finally installed my new S9156 servos (replacing the S9206 that broke within minutes).

Given that the heli has so much space, it's a shame I had to remove the whole side panel to swap the servos (to get at the nuts).
I can swap servos on all my other heli's without doing that.

Over the next few days, I can get them wired in, do a thorough check, and take it for it's next little flight.

- this flight will be to set it all up, trim tail, check tracking etc. It'll just be a short one to ensue nothing is wrong or falls off!

I will also check motor temperature. I also have an eaglesystems micrologger. If that works on this flight, I can check current, headspeed.
08-13-2007 Over year old.
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Speedbird370
Heliman
Location: Sweden

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Speedbird370
I have finished the mount as I wait for the XLV to ship.
I used double ceramic bearings to give it a little more support along with some isolators to help on some vibration from the motor. I had an Ion that I had to do the same with on the Actro motor.If you take a dial indicator and run it on tne housing of the motor. Somethings it does not run true with the shaft.
Thanks again for all your help, I will try to keep you updated.

Regards,
Don


Very cool motormount Don
I will modify my mount in the same way

/Perry
08-14-2007 Over year old.
 
 
hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

OK, here's my shock decision. I have decided I will sell the XLV, because;

I was greedy to start this! I wanted to biggest heli, but in truth I don't really have anywhere to fly it! I barely have space to store it, and I certainly don't have time to go out and find a suitable site (I have 13month old twins to help care for)!

Also, it's huge size scares me a little.

But I am not so desparate to sell that I will give it away at a bargain price.

I am prepared to sell the complete E-converted heli (minus flight packs) are just under cost price to any one with deep pockets who wants an E-XLV but perhaps doesn't quite now how to achieve one,
or I can sell just the mechanics.

Check on ebay and the RR classifieds or email me for details.

I have really enjoyed building this bird - I seem to build more heli's than I fly, but I enjoy the building just as much.
08-16-2007 Over year old.
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hazchem88
Senior Heliman
Location: W.Mids UK

I have just ordered another piece of metalwork to double up the bearing in my motor mount, so the prop adaptor will now be supported by 2 5mm thick bearings.
I'll take a picture as soon as it arrives
08-17-2007 Over year old.
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Speedbird370
Heliman
Location: Sweden

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I have just ordered another piece of metalwork to double up the bearing in my motor mount, so the prop adaptor will now be supported by 2 5mm thick bearings.
I'll take a picture as soon as it arrives

Cool, hazchem88,
Get that XLV ready to fly,

You will be surprised how nice it is to fly,
its big size seems scary at first but once in the air its just like flying a big fluffy ball of cotton,
go to a field so you have some space around you though
and also do a landing approach flying forward in to the wind until in ground effect again, don’t descend to fast strait down in your own rotor wind...

Also once you start to fly it around, if outdoor temps are higher the 20C get some cooling fans for the motor to prevent it from over heating

/Perry
08-19-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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