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Radio - JR & Spektrum DSM > A thread for Mr. Beard and Spektrum people to read, improvements wanted looking forward

Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Yeah you keep smoking that wacky stuff as well - Meet you back here in a year or so eh

11-03-2007 07:07 AM

Paul Beard
Senior Heliman
Location: San Jose CA

There are still no plans for a DX9 at this time.

Paul

11-03-2007 07:08 AM

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Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

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There are still no plans for a DX9 at this time

Hilarious

So which new radio are you implementing all my great ideas into? DX7i?
As much as I love Spektrum I'm afraid the next Spektrum(ized?) radio I buy will be designed around 2.4ghz though not still yet another 72mhz retro-fit

11-03-2007 07:09 AM

ez2bgman
Elite Veteran
Location: N'awlins, LA

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There are still no plans for a DX9 at this time. Paul

There ya go Micro, directly from the man himself. Or is this not good enough. Sheeesh..

Gary
RJX of USA
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11-03-2007 07:14 AM

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JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: City of California in the state of Maryland

Micro,
The DX7 and X9303 are more than just a Spektrum RF section slapped into the 7202 and XP9303 cases. There are also firmware changes that improved the original firmware of those radios as well as making them communicate digitally with the RF board as opposed to a PPM stream. Oh, and the ball bearings on the DX7 gimbals.

> Why does Spektrum need a radio design of their own when they have
> JR's existing radios to retor-fit?

They decided it was time. The DX6i and DX3R are Spektrum designed from the ground up.

- John

Protos -- Logo 10

11-03-2007 05:51 PM

Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Yes I know but I didn't expect anyone to take my simplifaction to that much detail - My point is that the DX6 DX7 and X9303 are all retro-fitted 72mhz radios however integrated and modded their innards may be - I really expected that to just be a one time thing with the DX6 to get it out cheaper and sooner and they'd use the profits to come up with their own next radio - I actually bought into the DX6 thinking great I get to use the technology now while supporting developement of the real radio to come - Same with DX7

And you back up my point about the DX6i and hopefully all future radios - It's indeed time to design radios around 2.4ghz rather than continue retro-fitting existing 72mhz radios - The retro-fitting cheapens the 2.4ghz experience for me some like it's not legit enough to give a proper home - I'm very glad to see the new designed radios emerging - Keep those coming - Someday 'DX?'

11-03-2007 06:20 PM

fiveoboy01
Veteran
Location: Waunakee, WI - USA

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If there's not going to be a DX9 because the X9303 is the DX9 then why wasn't it labeled a DX like the rest of the Spektrum retro-fitted JR radios?

Perhaps because Horizon will not let the "flagship" 9 channel radio be anything other than a JR? Venturing a guess.

11-05-2007 05:34 AM

Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

If JR is the favorite company in that way then why don't they just go ahead and absorb Spektrum and just produce the single brand of radios (JR) equipped with Spektrum 2.4ghz technology just as we see the X9303?

11-05-2007 06:15 AM

ez2bgman
Elite Veteran
Location: N'awlins, LA

Micro,

You just don't give up, do you???

Paul even posted on here stating that there are still no plans for a DX9. Why can't you accept the fact that the X9303 IS the spread spectrum 9 channel radio for both Jr and Spektrum?! I am sure that if/when there are plans for more radios, Spektrum will let us know when the time is right. Until then you should be happy that we have the DSM2 technology in some great radios already.

Gary
RJX of USA
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SwitchGlo
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11-05-2007 06:58 AM

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Micro-Maniac
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Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

I just doubt Spektrum is done making radios with just the DX6i - If not a DX9 then maybe a DX8? I don't know - I'm just showing 'em my feature wish list here and see what comes of it

11-05-2007 07:02 AM

ez2bgman
Elite Veteran
Location: N'awlins, LA

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Maybe a DX8?

Are you really serious here????

If you were a major radio manufacturer, would you even consider an 8 channel when you already have very successful 7 and 9 channel radios? Both Jr and Futaba discontinued their 8 channel radios.

If Spektrum decides to produce their own line of radios (aside from the 2 that are out now), then they will let the public know when they feel the time is right. Until then, we have several radios to choose from that benefit from Spektrum's DSM2 technology. If you are so worried about buying an X9303 (or whatever) only to have a new "Spektrum" radio come out shortly afterwards, then just continue to use what have and wait. I for one am glad that I purchased the X9303. It has all the great features of my old XP9303 with the added benefit of DSM2, Servosync, and Model Match.

Gary
RJX of USA
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SwitchGlo
>Hot Girlz in da gallery<

11-05-2007 07:26 AM

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Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

You really don't absorb what you read if you actually do read rather than skim - I already said I'm not interested in another retro-fit radio - I've bought their retro-fit radios twice already - I love the technology but I dislike the retro-fit - I have what I need from them to get me by but if they want yet another purchase from me then they'll have to produce what I want at this point

As for 8 channel radios myself and everyone I've heard say anything were perfectly happy with 'em before 2.4ghz arrived on the scene - In fact the RD8000 is still a popular selling radio - I'd be just as happy again with an 8 channel 2.4ghz radio as a 9 channel it makes no big difference to me if that's something Spektrum is cooking that may not directly compete with JR radios

But looking from your POV now that the JR logo is going on 2.4ghz radios any Spektrum branded radios will be direct competition to JR 2.4ghz radios and a conflict of interest between these sister(?) companies which leads me to conclude that if Spektrum produces any of their own radios then they won't be anything that JR also has in 2.4ghz form such as the current 2.4ghz DX7 vs 72mhz XP7202 which means we likely won't see a new 9 channel class radio until they've nursed the X9303 for all they can get out of it first if ever because what improvements would be so worth all the X9303 owners buying yet another?

So why are they interested in our suggestions now?

11-05-2007 07:59 AM

JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: City of California in the state of Maryland

> a conflict of interest between these sister(?) companies

Hmm, let's see. Spektrum is owned by Horizon Hobby. Horizon Hobby is a US company owned by US folks. JR is a Japanese company owned by Japanese folks. Horizon is the US distributor for JR. JR and Horizon would therefore have business agreements.

This could be likened to Detroit automakers licensing hybrid technology and buying hybrid componenets from Toyota which, in the end, equates to direct competition. Or how about Toyota and Pontiac selling the exact same car (Matrix and Vibe). Yet both survive.

- John

Protos -- Logo 10

11-05-2007 02:02 PM

Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Well that's what I've been saying before but everyone threw a tantrum about that saying "the 9 channel is already out between them so there'll never be a similar from the other brand" while all we get out of Paul is "not at this time" to humorously egg this debate on with vague truth neither outright confirming or denying anything

"No Geo Metro/Suzuki Swift same but different possibilities around here" says my fellow suggestion providers "The Swift is the Metro"

Whichever angle I try to reason from people just want to shoot me down
Just what radios are we supposedly providing suggestions for here?

11-05-2007 02:59 PM

fiveoboy01
Veteran
Location: Waunakee, WI - USA

Well, the OP in the first post of this thread said "since we all know the DX9 is going to happen...."

HE certainly is not a rep for Spektrum I don't think anyways.

Then everyone jumped on the wagon providing suggestions.

I sort of chuckled because there was/is no evidence of Spektrum releasing a DX9 and the x9303 is out.

But then again, I think there was a spot in the thread where Paul was saying that all suggestions were being looked at. Dunno if that was a hint, or that the suggestions were being implemented for the X9303.

In any case, I don't see what your fuss is about Micro, if you want a 9-channel 2.4 system, there's one available.

11-05-2007 05:22 PM

Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Okay Dokay you've beaten me - I'll go directly out and purchase a radio that I have little interest in at this time just to satisfy you ok? The X9303 is out and it must be the (one and only) radio we've all been discussing here so you may as well close the thread now OICU812 - Mission accomplished

Obviously you aren't comprehending anything that I'm typing here

11-05-2007 05:36 PM

fiveoboy01
Veteran
Location: Waunakee, WI - USA

Any why would you have more interest in a DX9 rather than the X9303?

Because the plastic would look different?

11-05-2007 05:46 PM

OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

Micro the thread will not be closed because you can not figure out what is going on sorry, be well.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

11-05-2007 05:52 PM

Micro-Maniac
Elite Veteran
Location: Pasco,Washington Formerly: Captain Chaos

Like you all say - The be-all-end-all X9303 is here - No point in discussing suggestions for Spektrum radios anymore - Hope you all got just what you asked for since we need not expect anymore radios out of these people

11-05-2007 05:54 PM

fiveoboy01
Veteran
Location: Waunakee, WI - USA

That doesn't answer my question...

WHY must you have a SPEKTRUM 9-channel over the x9303?

I'm not ripping your desire to see a DX9, I'm just curious as to what your reasoning is. Do you think it will be less expensive? Do you not want something with JR stamped on it?

11-05-2007 06:22 PM

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