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Tools and Field Equipment > Lithium Starter Battery Adapter-Finer Edge Mfc.
 
 
todski
Heliman
Location: Reno

Rigid adaptor ?

I have a Rigid 18v Lithium drill and I'm looking to hook it up to my Dynatron. Know where I can get an adaptor? The drill and batteries are gaurenteeed for life! I'll see how long that is.

todski
05-30-2008 10:00 PM
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mechplas
Heliman
Location: Singapore

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"Damage $460.00"

You must have bought a combo kit....

Hi Rob,

The Drill set, Charger and 2 x 1.5Ah LiIons cost Singapore dollar $460.

I did purchase a another 3Ah battery for the Dynatron at S$200!!!! All because, the store does not sell the drill set with 3Ah batteries!. This is a pro con job by the industry I think!

Anyway, what matters now is the end result, a solid compact motor starter!
06-02-2008 02:01 AM
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TooBizzy
Senior Heliman
Location: Georgetown, Ohio USA

I have been using a 19.2v Craftsman drill to start my heli's (Raptor's) but haven't been too satisfied. When starting it really ratchets, kinda like an impact wrench because of the slower rpm and the compression of the Hyper. It can't be too good on the one way clutch bearing or the drill. Matter of fact, it just took the bearings out of my 50 se Hyper that only has a dozen flights on it. Thats why I was looking for something different.

So thanks to this thread, I have a Dynatron, Finer Edge Adapter, battery, and charger all on order. Can't wait to try it out. The added torque and RPM has to be much better on the starter shaft and bearings than using the cordless drill.

P-Gasser Se, Raptor 50 Se Hyper, Raptor 30v2, Trex450se, 3dx450...
06-14-2008 06:27 PM
 
 
Carbon Copter
Senior Heliman
Location: USA

I just got this setup with a Sully Dyno starter. Any tips on how to install? I don't want to ruin anything and the instructions are not all that great. (IMHO)
06-22-2008 04:30 AM
 
 
TooBizzy
Senior Heliman
Location: Georgetown, Ohio USA

I just got an adapter from Kevin at Finer Edge and put it on a Dynatron. I'll have to plug Kevin and the adapter he makes. I ordered it on Saturday and it was in the mailbox on Monday! That is superfast shipping. Being a machinist of 27 years, I can see quality when its there...And it is there! Everything fits together like a glove and the machining looks flawless.

He sent an email with instructions and a print/drawing of the adapter mounted to a starter. Its a little confusing if you just read the directions without actually mounting the adapter. It makes a lot of sense once you start disasembling your starter and take the rods out of your starter to turn them around. You have to do this to mount the couplers on the backside of the starter. You'll see.

If you have any questions, post here and and I'm sure you will get help.

I agree with others here...I believe this will be the last starter I will need. It spins over anything I have with authority! I like it!

P-Gasser Se, Raptor 50 Se Hyper, Raptor 30v2, Trex450se, 3dx450...
06-23-2008 02:54 AM
 
 
Carbon Copter
Senior Heliman
Location: USA

I received a PM from Kevin and I he is going to help me install it. Awesome customer service. I just ordered a Sullivan shaft. Sure hope this is my last starter, have a lot invested in it. Pretty awesome setup. I looked at a lot others and this seemed to be the best option. Probably not much more then similar setups and as stated before, now I can pickup some power tools to use with my pack and charger. Thanks Kevin.
06-23-2008 04:07 AM
 
 
TooBizzy
Senior Heliman
Location: Georgetown, Ohio USA

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now I can pickup some power tools to use with my pack and charger.

I thought the same thing. I ordered two 3ah batteries and the quick charger off Ebay. Then I was thinking my 19.2v Craftsman was getting some age on it. So I bought the LXT model drill without batteries for about 70 bucks. Its a much nicer cordless drill than the Craftsman....

Just a note to watch some of the links posted earlier in this thread. Some of the clearance/refurbished kits only have the 1.5ah batteries and the charger is not the good quick charger. It cost about the same off Ebay to get the individual pieces and I got exactly what I wanted.

P-Gasser Se, Raptor 50 Se Hyper, Raptor 30v2, Trex450se, 3dx450...
06-23-2008 04:51 PM
 
 
Aussie X-400
Heliman
Location: Sydney

I was about to order one of these kits for my Dynatron but the page opens up onto another site with this messgae "This page is parked free, courtesy of GoDaddy.com". Are these kits still available.

Rap 90 3D, OS 91 SZ-H, Hattori, Fut 2.4 GHz, 3 x BLS 451, Solid G/ BLS 251, ATG, Radix 690.
08-04-2008 09:16 AM
 
 
TooBizzy
Senior Heliman
Location: Georgetown, Ohio USA

http://www.afineredgemfg.com/

Try it again, it worked for me.....

P-Gasser Se, Raptor 50 Se Hyper, Raptor 30v2, Trex450se, 3dx450...
08-04-2008 10:36 PM
 
 
Mr502go
Heliman
Location: Kennesaw, GA

in response to the guy asking about the best way to tighten the nut on the starters, so the cone doesn't spin off. . . since we're on the subject of Makita tools. . . the Makita 3/8" drive impact wrench is unbeatable. I repair/modify Motocross bikes, and this tool is my most used unit. It's strong enough to loosen/tighten axle nuts, swingarm nuts (they use a 15/16 socket if that gives you an idea) they're GREAT for pulling the flywheel nuts off (since you can't hold the flywheel by hand and loosen/tighten with a normal wrench) Impacts are great, you can apply a LOT of torque to whatever and still hold the workpiece in your free hand. Also works great on the crank nuts on these engines (you WILL have to use the impact to get it off though, the crank holding tool won't want to work too well for ya LOL. If you do get the impact, try using it on normal non-heli stuff to get used to it though, it WILL strip/break bolts if you are too aggressive with it.

Batteries. . .when I got my most recent ones. . . two 18V 3.0Ah for $120 on Amazon. . . got the charger for $35 shipped on E-bay, and charger charges them in about 20 minutes.
08-24-2008 08:09 AM
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Just ordered one of these adapters for my Sullivan Dynatron and got a battery and charger from Amazon for Order Grand Total: $109.47
http://www.amazon.com/Makita-DC18RA..._bxgy_hi_text_b

Not too bad!

Nolan Manley
MA Stratus-ATOM 500-K3D-TRex600Npro-Logo14
Magnum Fuel, KBDDintl
09-01-2008 03:04 AM
 
 
nappyroots2182
Key Veteran
Location: Moline, il

anyone seen the new Makita light weight 1.5ah battery? i didnt know about it but ordered a battery and charger from my tool guy for this starter and this is what he gave. you think its powerful enough for my 50 size heli? i might give it a try anyway. its so light and small but fits the same adaptors. heres a link


http://www.tylertool.com/makita253.html

DX7, Trex 600N, YS50, JR770 gyro, trex 500
09-19-2008 11:13 PM
 
 
Ruff
Veteran
Location: Queen Creek, AZ

It will work, but you'll have to charge it more often. Those batteries have been out for awhile, they are 1500 mah vs 3000 for the larger ones.

Ruff

http://srcha.com
09-20-2008 12:30 AM
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nappyroots2182
Key Veteran
Location: Moline, il

well when i series my kong power batteries together to get 6s 2200mah, they last for multiple trips to the field. so i guess this battery should work. its only a 50 size and i dont do alot of flying with it. maybe 5 flights everytime

DX7, Trex 600N, YS50, JR770 gyro, trex 500
09-20-2008 06:45 AM
 
 
GM1
Elite Veteran
Location: Tallahassee, Florida US

Charge life

I use the 1.5 AH Makita battery, fly 6-10 times a day, 3-4 days a week, and a charge lasts me about a month. I was going to buy the 3.0AH battery but just haven't found the need and the smaller battery is lighter.
Gordie

On a dog sled team, if you're not the lead dog, the view never changes.
09-25-2008 12:11 PM
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Funny thing you guys mention the smaller battery. I needed a new cordless drill so I went online and bought a new Makita BDF452HWR. It came with two batteries, charger and a rebate form for a free 3rd battery.

Good to know the lighter 1.5A will work good on the starter too as it's much lighter.

Nolan Manley
MA Stratus-ATOM 500-K3D-TRex600Npro-Logo14
Magnum Fuel, KBDDintl
09-25-2008 05:01 PM
 
 
mystar60
Senior Heliman
Location: Clifton, NJ

Yes I too use the 1.5AH battery and it is awesome, very light.
I may not fly for a few days to a few weeks but that battery will still turn over my enging with out any trouble.
For those that do not know it is available for the K&S starter as well. There are no pictures on the site for the K&S but it is one of the selections in the drop down.

Kevin
09-25-2008 09:16 PM
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nappyroots2182
Key Veteran
Location: Moline, il

ok i got my adaptor today. does anyone have any pics of there install process. the instructions are kinda vauge for me. thanks if you got any.

DX7, Trex 600N, YS50, JR770 gyro, trex 500
09-27-2008 12:52 AM
 
 
Mr502go
Heliman
Location: Kennesaw, GA

What kind of starter are you using nappy?? Mine is on a regular little hobbico 90 starter. It was really easy to put it on that one. . . when looking at the back of the starter, I removed the top acorn nut, then I put the little octagonal shaped standoff in it's place (don't overtighten the standoff or you'll cause a bind in the starter shaft. . .tighten as you spin the shaft to make sure you don't overtighten) Cut off the excess wire. . . the insulation with the raised portion is the positive wire, the smooth is the negative. . . crimp or solder the included clips onto the ends of the wire. . . as you are looking at the back of the adapter, with the curved end up. . .positive wire hooks up to the prong on the right. Connect the other wire, tuck wires under the adapter (you did trim to the correct length right?) the standoff will slide into the recess in the back of the top of the adapter, then you can tighten it down with the included allen head cap screw (use a 4mm hex wrench to tighten) Once you've gotten everything cinched down nicely (without putting a bind in your starter) carefully drill two little holes in the starter plastic guide using the bottom two holes in the adapter as a guide. Using a 2.5mm hex wrench, screw in the included small cap screws until snug.
09-29-2008 08:30 AM
 
 
nappyroots2182
Key Veteran
Location: Moline, il

i have it figured out. works great. i have the smaller yellow sullivan. i love it just need to get my heli in the air more

DX7, Trex 600N, YS50, JR770 gyro, trex 500
10-02-2008 11:05 PM
 
 
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