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Radio - JR & Spektrum DSM > Anyone using the AR6100 DSM2 Microlite 6Channel Rx on their Heli?
 
 
ssrobzoom
Veteran
Location: Tn

Does it work as good as the 7000 version?

Here it is:

http://www.spektrumrc.com/Products/...?ProdID=SPM6100
01-21-2007 Over year old.
 
 
shlm
Veteran
Location: West Chester, PA

Yes is does and weighs next to nothing. Simply amazing.
01-21-2007 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

I'm using it on my Trex. Amazingly compact compared to the 770 I had in there.
01-21-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Matt Runhart
Heliman
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

Im getting one this Thurs/Friday for my Blade CP, Im using it to tradeoff the extra weight of the GY401 compared to a 90 or 201.

The Ground is Your Enemy..... Avoid it at All Costs....
01-21-2007 Over year old.
 
 
steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

AR6100

I've got one in a Raptor 50 and haven't had any problems. steve.
01-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JR-Spektrum
Heliman
Location: Champaign, IL

It is not recommended for use on a Raptor50.

We have only tested it on park-flyers and foamies.

Paul
01-22-2007 Over year old.
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steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

Paul

I see that it's recommended for park flyers, but realistically, I get my electric foamie a lot farther away than the R50 ever does. I've not had a problem, do you have any data to suggest that it should be a problem? Would a glitch counter designed for a 72mhz radio work with the Spektrum? Thanks. steve.
01-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
smartguy
Senior Heliman
Location: los angeles, CA

a guy on rcgroup tested the range on the AR6100.. 1.1 miles!!!
im really thincking of putting them in all my helis.
01-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JR-Spektrum
Heliman
Location: Champaign, IL

Steve,

You are giving up path diversity with the AR6100. Metal parts and carbon are reflective at 2.4GHz and can cause local fading on it's single receiver.

The AR6100 has frequency diversity, but not path diversity.

Fading on both antennas in the same frame has never been recorded in our testing on an AR7000 in any application.

Paul
01-22-2007 Over year old.
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G-DAVE
Veteran
Location: Tyne and Wear , England

Are you happy Paul that we are using the AR6100 in small heli's ie.Zoom 400 and trex400 - as there is less of them to screen the signal??
Dave

If it's not fun, your not doing it right !
01-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Pyrock
Key Veteran
Location: SF Bay Area

I have the 6100 in my Trex450 SE and it works great. I have it on the front lower tray (the horizontal one) and I have one of the short antennas sticking out the bottom of the canopy where the cutout is. This way, its exposed.

The only problem I've had with my Spektrum is that I had to rebind my 7100 when I was at the field once but since that last bind, it hasn't had a problem.

I am completely happy with my Spekrum system.(6100 AND 7100)

Blinged Trex 450SE, Stretched Logo 10 3D, Ion-X
01-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JR-Spektrum
Heliman
Location: Champaign, IL

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Are you happy Paul that we are using the AR6100 in small heli's ie.Zoom 400 and trex400 - as there is less of them to screen the signal??
Dave


Yes, absolutely.

Paul
01-22-2007 Over year old.
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ssrobzoom
Veteran
Location: Tn

Paul with Spektrum RC, could you comment on this topic?

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t315943p1/
01-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

Paul

I understand that you lose the path diversity, I just wonder whether it matters. I haven't noticed any glitches or lockouts. Maybe I've just been lucky. I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "fading", the signal strength will vary with any receiver/radio as the model moves about and the distance between the Tx and Rx varies. How common is it that the signal isn't picked up, and is the transmission so completely unidirectional that even the mechanics of a heli would completely shield the receiver? Is the effect worse in a larger model than a small one? Real world testing as described here by myself and a number of others would indicate that the AR6100 and it's predecessor will work in a larger heli/plane. Would you share with us your findings? Thanks. steve.
01-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
JR-Spektrum
Heliman
Location: Champaign, IL

Fading is where the direct signal from the transmitter is cancelled by a reflected signal (180 degrees out of phase).

This is quite common with microwave systems because of the short wavelength. The good news is that path diversity can completely overcome it.

Path diversity means that the same signal from the transmitter is received of two different paths simultaniously. Seperating the receiver by more than 1/2 wavelength (62mm) solves the fading problem since if a local reflection cancels the direct path, the second path, by physics, cannot be cancelled.

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How common is it that the signal isn't picked up

We record 100s of fades per flight in the 'larger stuff' on any single antenna, but have yet to record even 1 lost frame as a result of fading on both antennas.

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Real world testing as described here by myself and a number of others would indicate that the AR6100 and it's predecessor will work in a larger heli/plane

You are loosing frames, but you just don't realise it. In foamies, where local reflections are minimal, the performance is great, but in the 'larger stuff' anything less than perfect, to me, is unacceptable.

The benefit of our wideband system to me has always been to provide a perfect digital link to the heli. That's the connected feeling you experience with this system.

Paul Beard
01-23-2007 Over year old.
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Ron_Osinski
Senior Heliman
Location: Russellton, PA

Hey Paul,

Thanks for hanging around here to field questions.

I can't wait to try a few of the 6100's in my 450 T-Rex's. SO far the DX7 is working splendidly with the 6000's. Feeling "connected" to these agile helis has never been better.

I appreciate all your efforts.

_____________
Best Regards,

Ron Osinski
aka - GMRO
01-23-2007 Over year old.
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steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

Paul

One more question. Why not just use longer antennaes? Thanks. steve.
01-23-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Hoorn
Key Veteran
Location: Annapolis Maryland USA

Have not posted much since I first communicated with Ron last year about the DX6. I never went the DX6 route but recently purchased a DX7. As primarily a sport flyer it has all the functions I need. I have programmed one of the mixes for a throttle hold on my planes, use mix 5 or 6 to avoid problems with the throttle trim, as I use that feature on my helis.
The 6100 works fine for me in a TRex SE. I have it mounted on the bottom of the Lipo tray with the antenna' running fore and aft. Never glitched and I have flown it as far as I dare due to the small size of the heli. The new CX2 will bind to the DX7 allowing mixing and some other goodies Whats to say about the 7000. Fantastic receiver that works in anything. I recently sold all of my 72mhz gear.
Gary
01-26-2007 Over year old.
 
 
OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada





...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
01-28-2007 Over year old.
 
 
Rum95
Senior Heliman
Location: Puerto Rico

Everywhere I looked for it, its out of stock, I guess a lot of people are using it...
01-31-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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