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Synergy R/C Synergy N9 > All Synergy Dial Indicating Problems SOLVED once and for all
 
 
P.J.
Veteran
Location: Ireland

It would have taking me near enough the same lenght of time to dial indicate my Xcell machine's

P.J.

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Stu.
Veteran
Location: Abrakebabra Kebab shop

I have had furies for about 5 years.

it has NEVER taken me that amount of time to dial one of their hubs

Stu

www.waterfoothelis.com
12-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
P.J.
Veteran
Location: Ireland

Well i guess its the luck of the draw.

lol

P.J.

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12-15-2006 Over year old.
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raptorheli2
Elite Veteran
Location: rip off britain and no changing it

no pj, it's just stevie wonders dog doing qc i'm afraid. simple.

some are fine and some are not it seems.

cheers


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12-15-2006 Over year old.
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Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

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it's just stevie wonders dog doing qc i'm afraid. simple

Don't blame the Dog i'm sure he doesn't have the same affliction as Mr.Wonder!!

Quotes may have been changed for my own amusement
12-15-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Tyler
Key Veteran
Location: Chicagoland area

Why put a 70 in a Synergy?

Are you kidding?

Why not?

I am hoping for a smooth, easy to start, crisp, light-in-flight heli that gets LOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGGGGGG flight times. I thought I could get rid of my 50 for casual sport flying and text book practice flights where balls to the wall power is not needed. I enjoy "flying" through manuevers, and stick banging a 90 big block makes it to easy for me to form bad habits.

Often I like to take a heli out and shoot three tanks worth of autos. Why burn extra fuel to feed a 90 when a 70 will get the job done?

I bet there will be a fair number of people willing to power their Synergy with a 70 sized engine if a few people will pave the way and share their experience. I just happen to be one of those lab rats right now, as I don't know of anyone else doing the same.

Who says a world class heli MUST have the most power possible to be enjoyable? Not me!!

I have an OS 91szPS powered Synergy already, and the 70 powered one can easily be upgraded with my other new in box OS 91szPS whenever I want.

The best news is that when I wish to swap engines, I can be assured that I won't have to deal with dial indicating the fan hub again.

Win-win situation!!

Synergy has made no suggestions that they plan to change the design or replace parts, so I jumped on the first good idea that came along, and I must say that it has been a very pleasing experience.

Tyler
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Droid
Elite Veteran
Location: Deep down in the Southwest- UK

Good for you!

Its nice to see people non conforming

Its your machine do what the hell you want to do with it! Other than shoot it down with a .50 calibre rifle that is

Quotes may have been changed for my own amusement
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Tyler
Key Veteran
Location: Chicagoland area

Botttom line....

I could not get the 70 to work with the stock parts. I could get things close enough with the 90.

The Hyperhub has made it a breeze to enjoy both engines with no hassles.

Tyler
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
fastlif
Senior Heliman
Location: PA USA

Tyler,
Thanks for the tip and link. My N9 is under the tree and I just ordered the Hyper Hub, I was not looking forward to fussing with it. Now, it will be simple. simple is good with helis.

thanks again.
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
OsiViper
Veteran
Location: Durango, CO

Ahh Tyler, so this is what you were talking about

Too bad i already got mine all dialed in
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Tyler
Key Veteran
Location: Chicagoland area

Osiviper

Glad you got yours dialed in. Was it an easy task? How much time did you have to spend on it?

Tyler
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
OsiViper
Veteran
Location: Durango, CO

Around 6 hours, Alot of sanding too since one of the collets was uneven.

Best i could get Just on the fan hub without sanding was 21 thousands
After sanding the uneven collet i found out the fan hub wasnt even and had to sand it down also. got it down to two thousands on hub and on shaft.. -- thats good enough for me
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Tyler
Key Veteran
Location: Chicagoland area

Payday

Lets calculate our precious time here:


Many Synergy owners are easily spending between 3-9 hours on the fan hub. At a modest $10/hr. we have invested $30-$90 on a single engine install. Add the expense of the dial indicator and related tools (only if you don't have them already) @$30-$150. Where are we now? At the median numbers we are at about $125 "time/tool value".

I think for the hyperhub is worth the money considering the time and expense it saves, and this is my OPINION only.

Some folks have more time than money, hey that is me! Anyways, folks buying a heli at this price level, then outfitting it with top shelf gear (except my lowly OS 70) typically don't have a problem with buying a useful upgrade.

I would rate this item as 95% functional improvement and 5% bling factor. I personally don't like to add a single upgrade that is not necessary. This, in my opinion, is not bling but function and a true hassle reducer.

Simply visit the Synergy forum and see how many people are struggle with this issue. I was ashamed at my dial indicating and tuning performance until I found that nearly everyone was having troubles in this area.

Thanks Hyperformance!!

Tyler
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
OsiViper
Veteran
Location: Durango, CO

Not really much of a bling factor since you cant see it very easily unless canopy is off and your looking hard :P

But I would have rather got the hub than the Indicator.. save me alot of time :P
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Tyler
Key Veteran
Location: Chicagoland area

My point exactly...

and every time the engine comes out of the machine, guess what you are going to be spending time doing AGAIN!!

We all know that bling is for the guy buying it not the general public looking at it. Bling is pride issue. As long as the buyer feels puffed up, that is all that matters.

I feel like the hyperhub is not a bling item. However, the machining, anodizing, and even laser engraving is pretty awsome when you fondle the hub!!

Tyler
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
TMoore
rrProfessor
Location: Cookeville, TN

Nice looking work Jim. I'm sure that these are great additions to the Synergy.

TM

"If you can do it, it ain’t bragging." - Will Rogers
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Vigor100
Heliman
Location: pismo beach, ca

Dial indicating

I was at tods house along with about 5 other guys with Synergy's. I saw him dial indicate 4 engines and it took him about 5 minutes per engine, if that. I along with the other guys were amazed to see how quick the process can be when you know what you are doing.

He made it look WAY tooooooooooooo easy.
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Tyler
Key Veteran
Location: Chicagoland area

Todd

Yeah, I spoke with him on the phone several times. He walked me through it on the phone, I watched the video (which Todd says is the proper process), etc. I also went to the machine shop Todd recommended, and they came up with the same issues I did. Of course this is all with the OS 70. My OS 90 with the same stock and hub was within 4 thou total runout in under 10 minutes (decided to live with it, but not personally satisfied). So, I can do it, too. But now I don't have to worry about it again with either engine.

Tyler
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Carl Bonta
Heliman
Location: Elgin, IL USA

These HYPERhubs are designed for easy motor remove and install, They are great for pulling a motor at a funfly or if your at an competion were you need to get the motor back in and running true, ASAP. These are not a necessity for the kit, and are for guys pulling motors in and out of the heli on a regular basis.

HYPERcollar is also along the same lines if you have a problem keeping you stock collar tight, which is ultra important on the Synergy, or you will tear-up the crown gear, also you donot burr the main shaft.

HYPERring is a dampner that has been tested for along time between Jim Stark and my son Tyler Bonta as well as some of the worlds best pilots with great results, They holdup even under Jim's super fast flying style, and Tyler's aggressive "Gangsta" style of flying. They are the only dampner that stay tight, that they have tested, and they hold up to a crash very well.

Remember.....These parts are not required in any way for the Synergy to perform like we all know and love, They are convenience parts with a little added bling!!!
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
u.k. sailor
Veteran
Location: cambs uk

Hi Carl are these items made from a very high grade of alloy so as to allow repeated use without issue?
Also is it possible to tweak the runout by adjusting the clamp bolt tension one side to the other?
both items look to be very worthwhile if they have a long service life as I believe various makes of mast collar have been known to fracture over time with unpleasent side effects.
can I get them in GOLD
How hard are the dampers compared to the others now available?
12-16-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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