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Gohbee Aviation Stinger 30-90 > Gohbee anyone?
 
 
Rennster
Veteran
Location: Hawaii

Was going to buy a Titan but saw a Gohbee. Any experience with them? FYI, my nomex suit is on!
12-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
BJames111
Elite Veteran
Location: Billings, Montana

a guy showed up at the field with a gohbee. It looked a little cheesy, but I flew it for him and it flew ok.

Brian James
Miniature Aircraft Fury Extreme
G-Force Heli
Elevated R/C
12-02-2006 Over year old.
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soulrider911
Senior Heliman
Location: Novato Ca

Titan

DUDE i love my tiatan, could't imagine substituting antthing else...you get what ya pay for as they say...

Why don't cats get gray hair with age?.....
12-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Portblock
Veteran
Location: Van Nuys, CA

I have both a Titan and a Gohbee Stinger, I like them both, but treat them different.

The Titan has the longer tail boom, belt, etc..

When I brake parts on the Titan, I replace with Gohbee, except the boom.

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12-02-2006 Over year old.
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scottc
Key Veteran
Location: shakopee minnesota..USA

I have had the Gohbee stinger 50/90s and i think they are just as good as the raptors, parts cost less from gohbee with the use of a rep code you get a 7% discount on the cost of parts.

Hey I didn't ask for this fetish.!!!But I'am sure paying for it....
12-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Eury
rrProfessor
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

I test flew a Gohbee 50 for a club member, and I've owned more Raptors than I can count. There really isn't that much difference in how they fly, and if anything, the head on the Gohbee has a smoother hover and faster cyclics on the same paddles and blades. Not a huge difference, but there is one there. Raptor parts are more widely available, so that's a positive for the Raptor, but you can use 90% of the Raptor parts on the Gohbee, about the only difference is in the head. If it were my money, I wouldn't get either, but if I had to only choose between those 2, I'd pick the Gohbee.


Nick Crego
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
12-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
rcsoar4fun
Veteran
Location: Corpus Christi, TX

I have flown both. I agree the Gohbee is a little smoother in the air. However, it tends to get sloppy faster than a Raptor (at least the velociraptor I am flying). However, the Gohbee is a little more tolerant of slop than the Raptor. I like the Gohbee because it was cheap. Cheap to fly and real cheap to crash. However, I had some issues that required "upgrading" to stock Raptor parts. If its just about money I would get the Gohbee. Otherwise I think the Raptor is a better deal long term.

Vote smart, vote RP!
12-02-2006 Over year old.
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BJames111
Elite Veteran
Location: Billings, Montana

You can't go wrong with the Raptor line. I agree. Anything else you may take a gamble with. The Raptor is a tried and true design with a lot of experienced pilots flying them.

Brian James
Miniature Aircraft Fury Extreme
G-Force Heli
Elevated R/C
12-02-2006 Over year old.
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Rennster
Veteran
Location: Hawaii

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If it were my money, I wouldn't get either,
What are some of the shortcomings of the Raptor? I don't like all the linkages and wish it was as simple as the direct to swash link like my TREX.
12-03-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Eury
rrProfessor
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

I don't know if I can answer that without being jumped on. Leaving the company that is behind the product out of it, the Raptor has some shortcomings, here's a couple:

Weak stock head block. If you get into hard 3d flight, you are going to have to buy a metal headblock. The stock plastic one has proven to be unreliable. Many people feel the need to replace the entire head with one like the Kasama to get better flying characteristics out of it.

Weak stock tail. Change out that stock tail hub for their upgraded one when you build it. If not, there is a chance of it failing, the upgraded one has been pretty bulletproof. Luckily, that part is cheap (less than $20 if I recall).

Captured bearings on the frame. When it comes time to do bearing maintenance, you'll be pulling the frames apart. And bearings do need to be replaced, a good crash will take out mainshaft bearings. It's a 2 second job on just about every design out there, except for the Rpator, and it's clone, the Gohbee.

And finally, value for the dollar. Aside from the Airskipper, Hurican, and MA's new Razor (whenever it is released), the Raptor is the most expensive 50 on the market, and the worst equipped. $420 will buy you an Evo or a Titan. The Evo comes with carbon main and tail blades, metal headblock, thrust bearings in the tail, and has no parts that have to be upgraded. It has things that are nice to upgrade, but the only one that really does anything beyond cosmetics is the radius block, which is $27. Many consider the Evo to be a better flying heli as well, there are a ton of threads where guys are dropping hundreds of dollars on Kasama heads for their Raptors, and you won't find many (if any) where Evo heads are being changed out. Crash costs on both are the same, within a few bucks, and Jeff Green at MRC is a HUGE asset behind the Evo.

That's assuming you want a mechanical mix heli like the Raptor. If you want an ECCPM heli, with the simple linkages like the T-Rex, the Audacity Pantera is $370, and also has the metal headbock, triple bearing tail, cool airfilter system, 4mm flybar, and needs no upgrades. Crash costs are a little hgher than the Raptor, but not by a huge amount, and flying wise, it has much more lively cyclics, and a smoother hover.

None of that's to say that the Raptor isn't a good heli. It is, it's a great heli. There isn't a heli on the market today that doesn't fly well, the difference is in the details. The Raptor design is older than dirt and has proven itself to be tough, good flying, and easy to own. If you are going to go out and crash today and want to be flying again tomorrow, there isn't a heli in the world that you'd rather be flying than a Raptor 50. Parts are everywhere, cheap, and there are a ton of cloned parts out there by people like Gohbee and Heliproz that can save you big money. With other helis, it's best to keep a couple of the common spares if you want to get back in the air fast. Beyond that, everyone has had a Raptor at some point, so when you need help, it's always available, plus the design is pretty simple. I help people all the time with them, and when something is wrong, it's always simple to diagnose, since they have been around for so long the trouble areas are well known.

That's about it, there are other issues, but mentioning them will cause all the reps to freak out and start trying to shout me down. In all, they are all good helis, pick the one that you like best. For plenty of people, that's the Raptor. It's got a cool name, and everyone recognizes it. No beginner has ever said, I want an Evo! They have to be talked into one, or they decide they want one when they get more experience, they always initially want a Raptor. Nothing wrong with that, it's a simple, available, and good flying machine. But there are better, and in many cases, they are less money.


Nick Crego
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
12-03-2006 Over year old.
 
 
PaulJC
Elite Veteran
Location: Hertfordshire UK

I agree the raptor has a few downfalls as mentioned above but parts price and availability can't be beaten

Welcome to RR village a tight knit community of geeks & gossips.
12-03-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Airman98
Key Veteran
Location: Southern Illinois

I started out with a Raptor and then bought a gohbee 50 and really loved the way it flew compared to the Raptor. The gohbee has been steadily upgraded since it first came out. The latest upgrade is in the tail check it out on their site. I bought a stinger 90 this summer and it did take some time to get it setup to my liking but its flying great now. Yes the Raptor parts are of a higher quality but for half the price you can buy a lot of parts.
Tim
12-03-2006 Over year old.
 
 
DarkSideSimba
Veteran
Location: Alaska

When it comes down to it. Honestly. I would get the Gohbee for one main reason. Customer Support!!! Dave at Gohbee is a great guy and puts his customers first. Where is TT's customer support at?? There is none. You buy a TT and you deal with hobby shops and their employees.. I do have 3 Rappys a 37,50 and my new Xero G Hyper and a spare stock airframe. I am not bashing TT. So please dont go there. I just dont like having an issue and no manufacturer to turn to for help. But in respect to one heli to another vrs Gohbee and Rappy. Depends on the pilot. Yes there is a differance in flight vrs the 2 helis, but not really enought to make a big deal out of. Personally I prefer the underslug head of the Gohbee over the Rappy any day. In reality if Dave have the Gohbees in every hobby shop next to a TT. I bet the Gohbee will sell 1st.

Get a Gohbee.. If not get the Rappy. Either way you will be happy flying.

DSS

Evolution.. Times Have Changed.. Has Your Heli??? Sceadu Evo.. Tomorrows Heli.. Todays Evolution
12-03-2006 Over year old.
 
 
scottc
Key Veteran
Location: shakopee minnesota..USA

This thread is pointing to a even keel with the 2 different brands, its up to the person to get what they like or feel the most comfy with, i have have had 2 stingers 50 and now have 2 stinger 90 and a raptor 50, as i have stated in past post iam no CY but can do rolls , loops , back and side flips for my flying , i will say out of the box the stinge will do all this much faster with out having ot add any lighter paddels to the heli, i have not seen parts were out faster with the gohbee or thunder parts so that is hard to see were that happens, the folks that have only flown the gohbee are not giving them a chance by owning one them self.

Hey I didn't ask for this fetish.!!!But I'am sure paying for it....
12-04-2006 Over year old.
 
 
toybuilder
Heliman
Location: Colorado

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Where is TT's customer support at?? There is none. You buy a TT and you deal with hobby shops and their employees.

TT's customer support comes from Ace Hobby Distributors. I've dealt with Anthony at Ace Hobby a few times. He is always friendly and helpful, and has always solved the issues I've had to my satisfaction.
12-04-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Eury
rrProfessor
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

And there are many who find their support severely lacking to the point of being insulting, even. Some get lucky, some don't, I guess.


Nick Crego
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
12-04-2006 Over year old.
 
 
KennyS
Veteran
Location: Marble Falls, Tx

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Unfourtunetly, not a lot of people ever call the Customer Care Department

Never had a reason to call. Any time I have needed any thing and was not able to find it on my own I was able to get the information I was looking for from Ace's Field Reps. I have always been able to buy parts from a hobby shop. If I was at the field or a funfly and needed something I was able to get it from another pilot.

The point is, support does not just come from the Manufacturer, it comes from the community. I have now been flying the Raptor line for 3 years solid and I have never been in a position that I was not able to work through.

Yes it seems that Ace has been a bit slow on some of the newer products but they continue to move forward, and have come leaps and bounds in the last few months.

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Gohbee anyone
No Way

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12-04-2006 Over year old.
 
 
DarkSideSimba
Veteran
Location: Alaska

Odd for as long as I have been a member here on RR, I cant once recall anyone saying they were a field rep for TT. Thats neither here nor there. Only thing I kno is the support a person can get from Gohbee far surpasses TT.. For example. Many of you may recall my issue I had with a few Gohbee products I bought to repair my downed Rappy. If not more or less a few parts came through as bad molds.. All I wanted was the issue to be addressed by someone at Gohbee. Dave immidiatly emailed, and PM'ed me, then called me personally about my problems. All I wanted was parts to be replaced. More then less the new frame halves was all. Dave took it to a level of which I have never recieved from any company. What he sent me in return was a COMPLETE Gohbee airframe (head and all) minus tail assembly and boom. I was sooo stoked that a rep of a heli company would go this far just for one customer. This is why I would recommend Gohbee to anyone (not to get free stuff mind you but superb service). The customer service is bar none one of the best in the heli biz. Only other that I could say would rival them is of course Jeff with MRC Hirobo. All in all, what I am saying is that the customer service/support end of it has alot to do with buying a heli or anything for that matter and sticking with that manufacturer for the long run. You get burned a few times and I dont think you would be willing to stick with that brand much longer. Honestly my Gohbee gets more air time then my Rappys do. So for Dave and the Gohbee crew... Cheers for outstanding service and one very happy customer.


DSS

Evolution.. Times Have Changed.. Has Your Heli??? Sceadu Evo.. Tomorrows Heli.. Todays Evolution
12-05-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Eury
rrProfessor
Location: Ankeny, IA, USA.

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Odd for as long as I have been a member here on RR, I cant once recall anyone saying they were a field rep for TT.

To be fair, there are policies on RR regarding field reps, that's why you don't see people broadcasting their affiliations. There are TT reps on here, one might very well be replying to your post!

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If you are considering which heli to buy..just take a look around..not many people flying Gohbee and more people than you can even count are flying the Raptors.

If the Gohbee was as good as a few have said, it would be reversed. Again, you get what you pay for..a Gohbee is half the price of a Raptor..WHY? You can figure it out.

Such great logic. From that, we can also extrapolate that since there are more cockroaches in this world, they are superior to humans.

There is so much more to explaining the vast quantity of Raptors out there than their "Superior Engineering" and "Superior Support" (I got a little chuckle from those, that was funny). It's all about timing, and availability. TT/Ace had very wide distribution from the beginning, and they brought the Raptors out at a time when nothing else was close in terms of price/performance. A lot of people bought, and they achieved critical mass, so it keeps on going. It has nothing to do with the quality of the support provided by the manufacturer, distributor, or reps, and everything to do with the fact that everyone has had a Raptor at some point and can help with them. I'd bet that 99% of all people who buy a Raptor never even think of giving TT/Ace a call. They are simple machines that fall together and don't have problems 99% of the time. They just work.

They aren't the newest, they aren't the best, they aren't the most reliable, but they are very good in all of the categories without being standouts in any of them. Seeing how there are probably only a handful of people in the world who can exceed the capabilities of ANY heli (and none of them waste their time with us on RR), we don't need the standouts, we need reliable, and that is what the Raptor (for the most part) is.


Nick Crego
Back off man, I'm a scientist.
12-05-2006 Over year old.
 
 
DarkSideSimba
Veteran
Location: Alaska

Hmm Mike from what I gather on this thread is that just about every Key Vet or Elite Vet nudges toward Gohbee over Rappys. Also would it not be lude to say that TT has been around alot longer then Gohbee?? Would you not agree on this??? So this would explain your 2 cents on why there are more Rappy pilots then Gohbee. All I am saying is that I dont like having to call around to different hobby shops in the lower 48 just to get info or issues addressed when I have a problem with any Rappy of mine. As far as customer service goes.. If Dave is not in the shop there at Gohbee and you need an answer right away then you can also reach him via cell or home phone. And can be guarenteed that he will be polite and profession all about any conserns or problems you may have and address them right then and there and find the solution.

I fly Rappys, yes, and I like them alot, but I preferr to fly my Gohbee over them, well untill I get my Xero G in the air.. But then again is a Xero G really a Rappy??? But honestly my Evos get the majority of fight time. I like them all (alot) but just my personal choice is that my TTs' get the least amount of flight time. And to be really really honest. Only reason I bought my TTs' was because my 5 year old son liked the canopy vinnal kits( the shark kit grabbed his attension ). No other reason. If it was not for him I would have 3 more Evos on my wall. I am just another heli pilot drop in a bucket quickly filling up, I have my own oppions and they are mine. If they upset you or bother you.. Sorry.. I am here just as anyone else. To help, give my oppion or just to write my thoughts on any such topic.

But honestly Mike have you ever flown a Gohbee personally??

DSS

Evolution.. Times Have Changed.. Has Your Heli??? Sceadu Evo.. Tomorrows Heli.. Todays Evolution
12-06-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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