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jschenck
Elite Veteran
Location: La Vista, NE.

well not exactly 3D, but some serious bank and yank. impressive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZJek7mafhA

...yep...

11-01-2006 Over year old.

Pole
Senior Heliman
Location: Norway

wow... thats cool

Stay tuned fore more happy days

11-01-2006 Over year old.

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Nightstalker
Elite Veteran
Location: UK (BEDFORDSHIRE)

there always showing off in cornwall

11-02-2006 Over year old.

DKTek
Senior Heliman
Location: Melbourne, FL-USA

I'm an ex BlackHawk guy. That crew has BALLS. I've seen what can happen to a stressed Chinook that was doing far less. Wasn't so cool when it only took two trucks to carry the left overs back to the hangar. The rest was incenerated after impact.

11-02-2006 Over year old.

hayabusa
Senior Heliman
Location: uk

THATS BEST OK 2&3/4 D

Hi jschenck

that was a great post and Hi DKTek

I did not know balls that big existed now I do

I could not ever imagine a Chinook capable of doing such maneuvers seeing is believing, you chaps flying those big rotators well your adrenalin must be ready to explode! It’s got to be best for a great buzz though. I think I will continue flying on two wheels I don’t like heights

especially with some great big samurai swords swinging above my head, bollocks to that .cheer’s hayabusa

11-10-2006 Over year old.

TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

that was more of a lack of brain power... I'm surprised they didn't lose it... if that exhibition was the RAF's idea, that was a really irresponsible thing for them to do at an airshow where hundreds of lives could have been at stake.

....but given that nothing bad happened, that FRICKEN ROCKED

11-10-2006 Over year old.

jschenck
Elite Veteran
Location: La Vista, NE.

I have to admit if I'd been in that crowd I'd be like "Wow, THAT's cool - come on girls, lets go get a soda or something.." and then quickly moved my daughters to the back of the crowd. But man, that must have been spectacular to watch.

...yep...

11-10-2006 Over year old.

Got Heli?
Senior Heliman
Location: Stuart, FL

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hat was more of a lack of brain power... I'm surprised they didn't lose it... if that exhibition was the RAF's idea, that was a really irresponsible thing for them to do at an airshow where hundreds of lives could have been at stake.

I've seen them loop and roll one. I don't think they did anything very crazy at all in that video.

11-14-2006 Over year old.

TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

DKTek said...

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I'm an ex BlackHawk guy. That crew has BALLS. I've seen what can happen to a stressed Chinook that was doing far less. Wasn't so cool when it only took two trucks to carry the left overs back to the hangar. The rest was incenerated after impact.

I've never heard of a Chinook doing loops and rolls.. I've seen AH-64's and BO-105's doing that, but a Chinook is a far cry to that of an attack helicopter (in the case of the AH-64) or a BO-105 (used for both military and stunt applications). And even if you have seen a Chinook do loops and rolls... the pilot(s) must have had some kind of death wish.

11-14-2006 Over year old.

Got Heli?
Senior Heliman
Location: Stuart, FL

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I've never heard of a Chinook doing loops and rolls.. I've seen AH-64's and BO-105's doing that, but a Chinook is a far cry to that of an attack helicopter (in the case of the AH-64) or a BO-105 (used for both military and stunt applications). And even if you have seen a Chinook do loops and rolls... the pilot(s) must have had some kind of death wish.

Being an attack helicopter has nothing to do with it. The CH-53 has the same max T/O weight as the Chinook and there is a few videos of them looping and rolling it. I've seen Bell 407's, MD500, EC135, BK117, S76's all roll. Doesn't have to be a military attach helicopter.

11-14-2006 Over year old.

TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

The CH-53 is a completely different beast than the CH-47D. Yes maximum takeoff weight is about the same, but that is MAXIMUM takeoff weight. That just means they have the same payload capacity, including personnel, fuel and armnament. Also, the H-53 platform is a different design from the CH-47, the 53's being conventional helicopters and the 47's being counter torsional. Now what would you trust to do rolls and loops? this?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zh2_vGYWO8s

or one of these..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jODtoYokg9c
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uAauF1_NgQ0

Oh, and the H-53 platform (Stallions/Pave Lows/Sea Dragons) are designed to be a more agile and agressive rotary wing transport to do many things that the Chinook can't.

I'll tell you this much though... rock climbing buddy of mine used to be 82nd Airborne and they were flown out to Florida to run night exercises with some SF guys (Delta, CCT, and I think a SEAL team or two). He was in the back of an MH-53 in blackout conditions in the middle of the night... red lights on, NODS strapped on his helmet, the whole night... The CCT guys were running exercises with ATVs and dune buggies, simulating the takeover of a hostile air strip, and actually landing 130's and C-5's with beacons off. Meaning, rotating beacons were switched off, landing lights were off... practically pitch black...

Anyways, just before his 53 was coming in to land and let them out, he felt dripping on his leg, so he felt felt around trying to figure out what it was. He touched his shoulder to see if anything had dripped onto there, checked his rifle to see if any oil was dripping from that, nothing... And then he touched his helmet. His helmet was DRENCHED in a liquid that he couldn't make out because of the red light. So he screamed for the crew chief.

"CHIEF!!!! WHAT THE HELL IS THIS!?!?!"

The chief tapped on his helmet and sniffed the mystery juice and yelled back, "DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT!! HYDRAULIC FLUID! YOU'LL BE FINE!!" And then he quickly followed up with, "SIT TIGHT, LET ME FIX IT REAL QUICK..."

Then the crew chief reached into a cargo pocket, pulled out a roll of duct tape, and went to town with a leaky hydraulic line right above his head... Then he gave my buddy a pat on the shoulder and gave the guy a wink and said, "You're good to go!"

My buddy never looked at Mil-Air the same way ever again... By the way, what I do know is that my buddy was really 82nd Airborne. What I don't know is how much he was imbellishing the story, but he at least swears by the hydraulic leak.

11-14-2006 Over year old.

Got Heli?
Senior Heliman
Location: Stuart, FL

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Now what would you trust to do rolls and loops? this? http://youtube.com/watch?v=zh2_vGYWO8s

Do you have any clue what that video is demonstrating? Do you really think that helicopter just fell apart on its own?

I was only saying that I've seen one roll before. It's very possible.

I understand what Max T/O Weight and a Beacon is, I fly jets and helicopters for a living.

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My buddy never looked at Mil-Air the same way ever again... By the way, what I do know is that my buddy was really 82nd Airborne. What I don't know is how much he was imbellishing the story, but he at least swears by the hydraulic leak.

Sounds like an 18 lb. bass story to me. Even though a small hydraulic leak isn't going to make you crash.

11-14-2006 Over year old.

TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

I wouldn't put it past the guy to go have gone thru that kind of training though. Just out of curiosity, do you fly military?

11-14-2006 Over year old.

Got Heli?
Senior Heliman
Location: Stuart, FL

No. I was going military until I got a better opportunity elsewhere. I fly Gulfstreams. I'm also a CFI Rotorcraft and have had the opportunity to fly a huge range of helicopters.

11-14-2006 Over year old.

TrexRookie
Key Veteran
Location: San Francisco, CA

nice

11-14-2006 Over year old.

JasonF
Senior Heliman
Location: Northern VA

Ok the flight was cool... but it looks very irresponsible to be doing that flight right over the town. Why wasn't he flying out over the water so that when he mis-times that death spiral he doesn't kill 100 people in the process?

11-15-2006 Over year old.

SARBoy
Senior Heliman
Location: St Mawgan, Cornwall, England

My God! What a bunch of worrie worts. That was a highly trained RAF crew in one of the most capable SH helis in the world. I fly and work with men and women like this and while it may look dangerous it has been approved by RAF standards and the CAA. The display conformed to airshow regs and was in no way more dangerous than any of the jobs these guys do day in day out. Sorry to rant but I think Health & Safty has got too many people by the balls.

Don't Panic!! Oh no, not again!

01-17-2007 Over year old.

krashtagain
Senior Heliman
Location: ohio

I'd love to take a ride on that wop wop woper

Learn to 3D or die trying !!!!

12-15-2007 08:34 PM

billrad
Senior Heliman
Location: Rineyville, KY

There are a lot of thrill rides in the service, but taking a demo ride with a Cav Aeroscout in a Kiowa, after the CW3 has had way way too much coffee, is up there. I remember asking him "did we die back there?"

he just grinned

I may not be able to turn a kit into a plane, but I can turn a plane into a kit...

02-13-2008 08:32 PM

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