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New & Emerging R/C Helicopters > Diamont 90
 
 
Nick Jones
Key Veteran
Location: ....

Anyone have any info on this heli, look really interesting and from what ive seen of quarks electric helis it should be great.

http://www.e-copter.com/catalog/pro...products_id=117
08-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
ShuttleSmasher
Senior Heliman
Location: Owner of TheModelWorx.co.uk

Looks Nice, But the price! Ouch.

Gary

Team Dyna-X
08-19-2006 Over year old.
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RappyTappy
Elite Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, NV

$2200+ USD for the kit! yikes!

Chris
Xero G

Forever Brothers
Mickey Tylo
08-19-2006 Over year old.
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idigrc2
Veteran
Location: Anderson, CA

you can go buy another Avant for that price LOL
08-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Simon9
Heliman
Location: NRW- Germany

Look in my gallery

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/40241/

and here for more information

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t241309p5/

www.e-copter.com

www.mbs-schulz.de



New--RZK-ROTORKOPF





Simon

Fly DIAMONT--The limit is the pilot!
08-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
JAGNZ
rrProfessor
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

That is NOT an RC heli - THAT is a work of art...

Jason Greenwood

Fury Extreme, 2X T600N's, Trex 500, DSX9 2.4
www.3dheli.co.nz
08-20-2006 Over year old.
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Nick Jones
Key Veteran
Location: ....

Very true.
08-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
IYKIST
Veteran
Location: London united kingdom

read more about it here http://runryder.com/helicopter/t241309p1/
08-21-2006 Over year old.
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e-copter
Senior Heliman
Location: Nice, France

Hello,

thanks a lot for the link on my webshop

You forget to mention that in france we have VAT at 19.6% so when exporting to usa you can simply remove 19.6% from the order price

That is why the heli is Sold only in Germany by Uwe and by us for worldwide so at export conditions are better about VAT ( it is only 16% actualy in Germany), this give us the opportunity to give better prices to our customers.

We have now the electric version coming up, with Plettenberg 370 series motor, 10S lipo.

I will very soon place a bunch of pics on my website, but alredy i thank you very much for placing a link here in Runryder, i'm honnored to see a link to my french froggie website .

Thanks a lot and do not hesitate to ask for any informations, we will be happy to answer.I will make a full presentation of the heli here if you wish

Best Regards,

Fabien Deregel & Uwe Schulz
08-22-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Balsa Duster
Heliman
Location: Avon Lake, OH

It looks so refined. Very well engineered.
08-23-2006 Over year old.
 
 
e-copter
Senior Heliman
Location: Nice, France

Hi,

the full presentation ofthe heli is in preparation with lot of pics and explanations.

The new canopy for peope wanting anothe one than the original one will be shown as well within one week in 3D cad and maybe we will show several models and make a poll for chosing it.
BEst regards,
Fabien
08-23-2006 Over year old.
 
 
IYKIST
Veteran
Location: London united kingdom

This looks a lot better than the previous one although it is a rendered photo.
08-29-2006 Over year old.
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eddnshoulders
Heliman
Location: Birmingham, UK

I'm very interested in some explanation of the flybar system on this model, especially the way that the flybar changes angle relative to the main head axle when it pivots. Is there any info already on the 'net, or could you give a quick explanantion?

Cheers
08-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
leady
Senior Heliman
Location: sharnbrook, bedford, UK

that looks alot better, the first canopy looked like sommit from planet helius 8.924, lol. but the new design is vvveeerrryy nice.
08-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
e-copter
Senior Heliman
Location: Nice, France

Hello,

here are a few informations about the flybar system.
The whole informations for techies geeks will be available in english in the patent as we are translating it for worldwide application (already applied in Germany with worldwide aplication in process).

Basic principle was to get the following:

- Having the rotorhead behaving the way you input the orders on the stick ( not to have to compensate on aileron when making a front flip for example, or having the heli coming out of a loop straight...)

- Having high pitch authority

- Avoiding having aileron / elevator "glitches" when sollicitating the pitch heavily. (Making up / down /up / down withouthaving the heli going left or right. This matter is managed by using H2 instead ohf H3 as in H3 CCPM all servos are linked to the pitc and failure or weakness of one of the three brings to aileron / elevator erratics inputs when pitch resources are extreme. H1 works as well but there is only one servo for pitch inthat case.Using H2 allows to have 2 servos ( AIleron and pitch) inputs for pitch , so no interation elevator / aileron and higher force and reactivity to the pitch..

Now about the rotorhead itself: This is a whole group of different things making the standard rotorheads acting differently as lot of things are involved in a rotorhead:

Gyroscopic precession, of both FLybar and rotorhead, dampening, delta offset, airfoils, and forwarding/ backwarding phenomenas of main blades and lmuch more even like the tail rotor turbulences in the rotor head airfoil.

I will not enter in the details but basically, the flybar is not moving up and down even if there is no washaout ( the little hat on the top of the rotor head moves up and down and removes the need of washout).
The flybar acts as a normal flybar, but it's tilting is not only up vertical but horizontal as well, from 83 to 97° compared to main rotor axis.
This allow to compensate mechanicaly the gyro precession effect and forwarfing / backwarding + the geometrical mixing diferences due to round travels of commands, and brings the rotorhead to act in the air as if you had the heli "locked " in it's position or in the input you give it.

THis is kind of strange at the firstflight, as we all are used to give some "automatics" inputs on the stick to make straight loops and flips or other manoevers. When you first fly it, you can notice that when you launch for example a front flip, the heli will move on the left on aileron side.. Just restart the manoever and look at your fingers, this is your input on left that gave this
So jst start the manoever again just with elevator and look at the result

THis is quite hard to describe such a thing, there has been 3 years of development and tests on this rotorhead from Uwe.

The best thing we could do is to make a movie with normal rotorhead and then with the RZK one and show the sticks inputs for same manoevers on both, but we do not have the hardware to do that for the moment.

If you want more informations, please send me a PM or an email as we are now on RR as manufacturers and we have to follow the same rules as the others here, which is totaly normal, so we can not put too many informations like that.

But we wil answer the questions with no problems, for any product update or news or pictures, they will be put on our websites regularly.

Thanks for you interrest in this heli,

BEst regards,

Fabien & Uwe
08-29-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Furious Predator
Elite Veteran
Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada

what a crazy machine. the parts count must be 5 times higher then any other 90. i agree, that thing is an engineering work of art!

Shawn
Team Leisure-Tech
02-27-2007 Over year old.
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e-copter
Senior Heliman
Location: Nice, France

Hi,

the problems have been solved

More news during summer ))

BEst regards,
Fabien
04-09-2007 Over year old.
 
 
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