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Bergen R/C Helicopters > Testing the aluminum insulator block from pre-mix
 
 
Chris Bergen
Key Veteran
Location: location

Well I can honestly say I ran the aluminum insulator, and I can honestly say that I LIKE IT!

Let me start by saying that I was very happy with the way my engine was running previously, vibes were well within the norm, plenty of power, no difficulties.

I had happened to crash two weekends ago, and during the repair I installed the aluminum insulator.

Initial test flights after the repair showed a smoother running engine, as well as a slightly richer needle settings. That alone tells me that the original block (which was a new one), had been leaking ever so slightly, necessitating a slightly richer needle setting to correct.

So when the aluminum block was installed and was NOT leaking at all, made the engine run slightly richer, necessitating the leaning slightly of the needles to get the engine back to the proper tune.

So far, I have not noticed a power gain per se, but I can say that the peace of mind of knowing that the insulator is sealed, and can give consistent needle settings due to this, will be invaluable in getting any gasser tuned properly, and in all probability, PREVENT the lean run that seems to destroy an engine in less than 1 tank of fuel.

Excellent Job.

Chris Bergen
05-18-2006 Over year old.
 
 
CRJBenny
Senior Heliman
Location: Pocatello, ID

I think you are totally right Chris. My thoery is that once the insulator block heats up it softens ever so slightly and with normal vibes it lets some air get through.

My two cents worth.

Ben Cardon
CardonAerialImaging.com

Ben Cardon
05-19-2006 Over year old.
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Euqor
Heliman
Location: Balneario Camboriú, SC, Brazil

I guess I'm a little lost, here.
What insulator are you talking about?

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Please visit my web page at: www.roqueaircraft.com.br
05-20-2006 Over year old.
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charger
Senior Heliman
Location: Spencer MA.USA

So were can we get this new insulator block? And if it's for the Intrepids with the G-26,I'll need 4 of them

Old chinese proverb.don't dwell on past crash, but look forward to future flight
05-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
peter84
Senior Heliman
Location: Lancaster, PA. USA

Where to get an insulator block

Direct form the manufacturer at www.z-rc.com. I got mine in a few days.
Safe flying, Peter
05-20-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Chris Bergen
Key Veteran
Location: location

My apologies guys, I should have posted the link and pictures....

I just figured by now everyone who had gassers already knew about it.

I have placed an initial order with Johan, but you can get it directly from him in the meantime.

Chris Bergen
05-21-2006 Over year old.
 
 
arrio
Senior Heliman
Location: Newport News, VA

Rick's also carries it. I ordered one yesterday.
Aluminum carb block at Rick's


"fly it like you hate it"
Alfred (arrio) Riopel "more toys than time"
05-21-2006 Over year old.
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MikeDD
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Location: Elkhart, IN



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05-21-2006 Over year old.
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Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

I have now got about 2hrs on the manifold, and would have to say I would not fly without them. As others have found, upon installing I found that I had to lean the engine slightly. I did see a slight difference in the smoothness of the engine.
Now here is the part that impressed me, as I said at first glance I did notice a slight difference in the engine. I then put my HD camera on the helicopter. With the Sony HDV HC3 the vibes will show up in the video tenfold. My next obsevations convinced me that these are a must!!
The two areas where I had a drastic improvement running the manifold were (1) when I reviewed the video it was as good as it gets (2) I tried the manifold on my Observer and the video was 100 times better, at that point I decided to try the manifold on my EB with the HCS underslung mount and see if my reults were consistant. Yes thet were!!
Another very interesting point here was as follows, I normally run the EB at 1475 headspeed, I have found in the past that when attaching the HCS mount and gear I would have to bring the headspeed up to 1500-1575 to avoid an annoying low frequency vibe visable in the mount itself. With the aluminum manifold I liffted the mount with NO change in headspeed (1475) to my amazement ther was no need to raise the headspeed to handle the weight. Upon landing I checked the temp of the clutch and engine with no difference from flying without it. I am now convinced without doubt this is the way to go.
Gary Travis

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06-04-2006 Over year old.
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FLAP
Key Veteran
Location: Michigan

Gary Travis is the Oprah Winfry (book club) of Gas helicopters. Wish I had stock in those insulator blocks. I just bought mine.
06-04-2006 Over year old.
 
 
gigi
Veteran
Location: Port-au-Prince, Haiti

Is this a problem with the G230 or just the G26?

In other words, do us folks with the older motor need to upgrade to these aluminum mounts as well?

Thanks,

Gigi

My heli spending has gone way down since I got a Honda 919 :-)
06-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Autoeject
Key Veteran
Location: Ashtabula, OH, USA

I believe the recommendation is that any engine with the polymer insolator block is suseptible to leakage. Just got my aluminum insulator from BergenRC this week.

Mark Webber
wai-rc.com
Spartan RC Distributor
Outrage Helicopters
06-10-2006 Over year old.
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rafael
Senior Heliman
Location: Oaxaca, Mexico

Chris do you have this aluminium insulators in stock? Part Number? So I can order two.

Thanks in advance

Rafael Castañeda
www.helicam.com.mx
www.rcoaxaca.com
www.737-700.com/simuladores/
06-11-2006 Over year old.
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