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Brady Longmore
Senior Heliman
Location: Idaho Falls, ID

Hello to all, I am brand new to Runryder, and brand new to helicopters. So here is my first post, about me, a newbie and my Bergen EB.

I heard that a newbie couldn't learn on a big gasser like the Bergen EB. It's too big, It's too much power, It's too much to handle for a newbie. I was told to get a smaller "beginner's heli" like a little Raptor or something, then when I was ready I could think about moving up to a gasser...maybe.

Well, by fate, and mere chance, I was introduced to Gary Travis, sponsored Bergen pilot, who quickly put my mind at ease, and quickly convinced me that the Bergen EB was the way to go for me.
I went down to Utah and spent a couple of days with Gary, who had already been working on getting my heli set up. I walked into Gary's living room and saw the Bergen in all it's glory on a folding table. I'll admit, with those huge blades folded back, and that extended boom jabbing out a mile, the heli seemed to be staring me down, like a hawk watching its prey. I warily approached the beast in awe. Gary watched on, a big smile spread out on his face, almost like a proud father.

The first thing I noticed was the obvious superior quality of this machine. Metal in abundance where other models would be sporting plastic. I fingered the main gear, and was immediately impressed with how tight, and yet smooth the gear mesh felt. Then Gary had me heft it in my hands. It was heavy, solid, and felt balanced. We went out into Gary's back yard and he fired her up. The sound of the big gas engine roaring to life was awesome. Then Gary gave her some gas, and those big blades starting spooling out, and in moments the beast was hovering before my eyes.

Soon after we were in the park near Gary's house where I'd attempt my first flight. As I stood there gripping my JR with sweaty, shaking hands, I suddenly was haunted by the words of the doubters and nay-sayers, who had warned me that you can't learn on a big gasser. Did I mention that we were experiencing high winds this weekend? Oh yeah. There I was getting ready to hover this thing for the first time in high winds with gusts in the 30 mph range. Oh, one more thing to frazzle my nerves...Gary doesn't believe in buddy boxes.

With Gary encouraging me along, I brought the blades up to speed. The heli shifted for a moment as the rudder kicked in. I slowly increased the throttle, and before my disbelieving eyes the big beast came off the ground. I have to tell you that never in my wildest dreams would a RC heli be so smooth, and come off the ground with such ease. In an instant the Bergen's smoothness, and rock steady controls washed away all my fears and doubts. Somewhere on the edge of my consciensness, I could hear gary laughing and making fun of my tin-man like appearance. After several seconds of hovering the Bergen (in 30 mph gusts) I brought her down, and let a huge sigh of relief. From that point on it just got easier and easier each time.

I am still in the learning phase, and just bringing it off the ground for a few moments and then setting it down. But my confidence is builing quickly.

This post is getting kind of long, so I will wrap it up, just by saying that I am a believer now. I am telling you that if you will do what it takes to have this heli set up properly, it will fly smooth as glass for you. This heli is not a model toy that you slap together over a couple of days. This is a preciscion machine with little tolerance for sloppy building. But, if you do it right, even a beginner like me can hover in 30 mph gusts.

MUCH MUCH Thanks to Gary Travis for his indispensable assistance in getting me going, and Thanks to Tina. That was awesome Spahgetti!

I also got to witness the awesome customer assistance of Bergen. Chris Bergen called Gary's phone a couple of times just to hear my thoughts on the heli. This is a company that really cares what the customer thinks. So, thanks to Bergen for selling a heli that someone can buy with confidence, and know that they are getting a class A machine combined with class A customer support.

More posts on my progress to follow.
03-27-2006 Over year old.
 
 
rkeith2
Veteran
Location: Norco, CA

Wow!

Welcome to the Bergen world. Glad to hear you took the big plunge and with Mr. Travis around you will learn fast and enjoy.

I had my Intrepid out yesterday flying and fying and having lots of fun tearing up the sky and then decided to let some others share the airspace, only to find I had a 1/2 tank left to burn.

You should have a great time and the service can't be topped.

my $.02


03-27-2006 Over year old.
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Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

Brady

Ok now get off the computer and go fly that thing!! I am glad you are happy with it, you did well the 2 day without the wind, I was happy to see that you could get it up 20 feet or so and move it around take it one step at a time and have fun.
you definatly looked at ease. I would assume you like it better than your last helicopter. We'll get together again shortly and maybe by then we can figure out why your anntena on the radio shakes!!
Gary

Bergen R/C Helicopters Duralite Batteries V-blades Magnum Fuels Wren Turbinesl
03-27-2006 Over year old.
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rkeith2
Veteran
Location: Norco, CA

Hmmmm,

My TX antenna only shakes on one of my helis' go figure


03-27-2006 Over year old.
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Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

Ron

Maybe we should get some training gear for your transmitter!!!
Gary

Bergen R/C Helicopters Duralite Batteries V-blades Magnum Fuels Wren Turbinesl
03-27-2006 Over year old.
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v22chap
Senior Heliman
Location: Howe, Indiana

Brady ,,welcome to Bergen helicopters ... glad that you like it so much and glad that you shared that with us all.Of course I already know that ,,but a lot of people don't.

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There I was getting ready to hover this thing for the first time in high winds with gusts in the 30 mph range


Sounds like typical Gary style , that man is scared of nothing
HI GARY

Ron
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My TX antenna only shakes on one

Let me guess ,,that would be the raptor

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters
03-27-2006 Over year old.
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rkeith2
Veteran
Location: Norco, CA

Sometimes that big powerful turbocopter gets me skeeeerrrred -

But!

I soon snap out of it


03-27-2006 Over year old.
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microDan
Senior Heliman
Location: New Jersey

Brady Longmore
I could not have said it better, I never met Gary Travis but I do have his video. You were very lucky to have him take you under his wing I wish you the best and the Bergen will keep you extremely happy Both in flying and customer service. I know because I own 2 of them....

"Do it like it's the last day of your life"
03-27-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Tristan Buhler
Senior Heliman
Location: SLC, Utah

Glad to see you like the EB Brady. You are flying great. The more you fly it the more confidence you will build and the more you will love it. You will see that both Gary and Bergen are some of the best helps in the industry/hobby.

Tristan Buhler
03-27-2006 Over year old.
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Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

Thanks for the compilments guys, I built Bradys's helicopter for him and set it up as per Bergen instructions, nothing anybody else couldn't do. I was easy to get the knowledge across to Brady as he had no experience with the gasser so he was all ears. It is so much easier to deal with a customer who listens to what is said and follows the advice given. We got his engine purring right from the start with a nice smooth transition throughout the throttle range.
It's not rocket science, I don't think I'm any better at the gassers than anyone else, I have just got a little experience with them that I can pass on.
Micro Dan I am glad the video helped and I hope to meet up with you some day.
Gary

Bergen R/C Helicopters Duralite Batteries V-blades Magnum Fuels Wren Turbinesl
03-27-2006 Over year old.
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Old Red
Senior Heliman
Location: Borrego, California

Nothing wrong learning on a gasser brady; just be prepared for the inevitable crash because it will happen.

The parts are more expensive, and because of the extra weight/energy you demolish more of them...

Between my old EB and my .50, it's about 3 times more money to stuff the Bergen.

They do fly great though!

Red
03-27-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Autoeject
Key Veteran
Location: Ashtabula, OH, USA

I too appreciate this topic as, with any luck, this weekend will be the first flight of my first gasser. Posts like this one help alleviate(if just a little) that pucker factor that I think might be causing some of that tx shaking.
Thanks Brady,

Mark Webber
wai-rc.com
Spartan RC Distributor
Outrage Helicopters
03-27-2006 Over year old.
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rkeith2
Veteran
Location: Norco, CA

Hung my Panasonic on for some test footage today on the Gasser Intrepid not yet converted to the EB and it hauled the weight around fine.

With the EB conversion it should be much sweeter -

It's sure nice to fly til your tired and land pretty much not worrying about the clock.


03-28-2006 Over year old.
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helisin
Heliman
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

First flight

Autoeject,

Did your first Intrepid flight transpire? How was it? I recieved mine (Intrepid EB) a couple of days ago. Am getting organised to start the build. It will take a while but looking forward to it.

Helisin
04-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Brady Longmore
Senior Heliman
Location: Idaho Falls, ID

Rkeith2:

What model is your Panasonic? How heavy is it? And what's the dimensions?
04-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Autoeject
Key Veteran
Location: Ashtabula, OH, USA

helisin

First flight should be this morning weather permitting. Just got my V's in yesterday. Everything seems ready to rock. One note..man that EB takes a bunch of weight to balance! Had to melt down both anchors off my boat and battery from my jeep! I didn't weigh what I had to put on there but I'm going to take it off when I get a camera rig on there.

Good luck with your build. I'm sure it will go as well as mine. That heli is a great kit.

Mark Webber
wai-rc.com
Spartan RC Distributor
Outrage Helicopters
04-08-2006 Over year old.
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helisin
Heliman
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Autoeject,

Good luck. Let us know how things go.
04-09-2006 Over year old.
 
 
rkeith2
Veteran
Location: Norco, CA

Panasonic G250 - 1 LB - 3 X 4 X 6

3CCD DV w/ snap shots on a smart disk

Good quality video


04-09-2006 Over year old.
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Brady Longmore
Senior Heliman
Location: Idaho Falls, ID

Yeah, I found a Panasonic GS65. It's 3 CCD, and about $400.00

I figure that's not a bad price for 3 CCD
04-10-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Autoeject
Key Veteran
Location: Ashtabula, OH, USA

My Bergen lives!

A big thanks to everyone who helped me with my build. Most notably Chris and Greg. I really appreciate all your help guys! The Bergen Crew is amazing!

After a few gyro headaches, I was finally able to muster the nerve to let my EB do what it wanted most. With that, it lifted off and, with just a bit of trimming, it was in a hover that had me wondering who was flying! What a wonderfully stable yet maneuverable machine. Even for a novice such as myself, it did exactly what I asked when I asked.

I've been waiting for this for over a year and it is everything I had hoped for in a gasser(soon to be AP) heli.

Thanks again Chris for this fine machine,

Mark Webber
wai-rc.com
Spartan RC Distributor
Outrage Helicopters
04-12-2006 Over year old.
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