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Avant Aurora - EFX - FX > Avant EFX= BAD A$$
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

Just got my avant flying, this is one awesome heli. I though my tempest was smooth and grooved, but this heli is a notch above IMO. Precise and 3D, both awesome! Cant wait to get some more time on it, here is my setup

OS 91 CSPEC w/Hatori SB-18 (new long version, bad ass)
9252s all around
GV-1 & 9202
Hirobo Carbon Tail Boom and supports, freya EX II metal landing gear.
MAH G2 710 mains, 95mm tails, V Paddles

What main and tail blades does everyone like on this? The MAH G2 do pretty well, but consider a set of the new style V Blades for it.

01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

yep, that's the carbon boom you're using, along with the carbon boom support struts.

I can't tell but are you still using the belt drive? If so are you going to convert to shaft? There are two upgrades, there's the normal freya version, using an aluminium shaft, and the very expensive Freya EX version that uses a carbon shaft (and metal gear box with helical gears).
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
u.k. sailor
Veteran
Location: cambs uk

sorry but why are you using a mix of servos rather than three matched servos with this eccpm system? i'm very pleased for you that you like the model so much!
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

I'd laugh if he was that careless enough to do it, spec was probably from his initial evo before the conversion
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

well, you can laugh, but mistype, all 9252s.
Do I need to upgrade to the shaft driven tail? It seems to be working fine for me with the belt drive, I had just planned on upgrading the tail to the eagle EX II tail box.
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

I always wanted to ask: are belts fine for extreme 3D? It's just that I don't fly 3D and the entire XCell Fury range are all shaft drive?

seeing Jason Krause beat the crap out of his Fury Extreme makes me wonder if a belt on an Avant could take that punishment. When Todd Bennett was flying for Hirobo he converted to shaft on his Freya.
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

Not 100% sure, but was looking at Pete Niotis' avants, and they appear to still have the belt drive.
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
jbiter
Veteran
Location: Orlando, FL

I asked this same question (about the belts) to a friend with a pair of Avant FX. He said the belt will tke anything you throw at it.

Be careful using 9252s on the EFX. I hear metal gear servos are preferred. You should be fine as long as you keep your flying smooth.

Jeff
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

I think the 9252s will be fine, my level of flying will never be Youngblood or Szabo lol.
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
jbiter
Veteran
Location: Orlando, FL

I hear you. I have two FXs with 9252s but I always thought the smooth 3D looked better anyways.

Jeff
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
A. Bundy
Elite Veteran
Location: Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

Your avant looks great razorback.
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Learn to Fly
Key Veteran
Location: Yalesville Connecticut

I do believe that will be my next baby too. Been lookin at 90s for a while.

I have flown it on G3, I hope it flies like that for real.


Jeff
Believe nothing you hear, and half of what you see...
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Augusto
rrAdvertiser
Location: San Diego, CA

That really is a nice looking heli.

To answer the question about belts. It's actually the other way around. Belts can take way more punishment than shaft drives. You hear a lot about tail gears stripping in the air but it's very unlikely to hear about a belt having some problem in the air.

The reason some people prefer the shaft drive is because they think they keep more energy in autos. While that is partially true in a much smaller scale than what most people think the reality is that auto energy conservation has more to do with head behaviour under no engine load than tail system.

The ideal system would be a system with shaft drive system that was as strong as a belt system with a good autoing head. That requires designing the components taking into consideration a lot of aspects of the loads that components are being subject to while flying hard 3D and under all kind of temperature and humidity conditions.

Augusto.

Avant Aurora Ultimate
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

Thanks for the info Augusto, good to know. Also, when are the programmable heads going to be available, and would it be worth it to upgrade the evo head to this one?
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
synodontis
Veteran
Location: United Kingdom

thanks for the reply, Augusto.

Actually, on my Sylphides (and I know a lot of other Sylphide flyers are having the same problem) we are getting gear stripping. I am beginning to suspect the metal pulleys eating into the teeth. I hardly stress my helis like a 3D pilot does. Also Freya fliers are not reporting this problem, and since the belt on the Freya is exactly the same one on the Sylphide the fault cannot be on the belt.

It is very reassuring that the belts can take more punishment than the shaft
01-07-2006 Over year old.
 
 
SUB RAPTOR
Senior Heliman
Location: Galway Ireland

great looking heli you have, is the canopy the stock one that comes with the kit or did you get it painted
01-08-2006 Over year old.
HOMEPAGE  
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

The canopy that comes with the kit are plain white, so have to get them painted.
01-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
OICU812
rrProfessor
Location: Grande Prairie, Alberta, Canada

That looks awesome dude

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...
01-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
steve9534
Key Veteran
Location: yakima, wa.

Belt drive?

I asked Curtis about this once, and his response was that a belt drive would slip. I've personally had some problem with every belt tail drive heli I've owned except the last Freya. Most would slip. I had a couple from 15 years back that broke the belt. The Vigor belt didn't break, but the t/r output shaft did when I got the belt tight enough so it didn't slip too much. The first Freya I had slipped the belt, but only after a lot of time. I sold it, then bought another when I was offered a great deal on an used one. On this last one I've run the belt pretty tight, and it's not slipped yet after 30 flights or so. The new belts are clearly stronger than the old Hirobo/Legend belts were, and the Freya has a numerically high t/r gear ratio that reduces the torque loads. This may be the magic combination, but if I were to design one, I'd do the front like the Raptor 50 - simple, light, and the larger pulley in front has enough teeth engaged with the belt that it will never slip. The rear I'd do like the Shuttle which uses an idler pulley to allow the use of a larger driven pulley, again allowing the belt to engage more teeth and reduce the risk of slippage. I'd also use at least a 5:1 ratio of main shaft to t/r shaft speed. I'm not so sure that an even higher ratio wouldn't help the tail holding power, allow the use of shorter t/r blades that would be less affected by side winds, and further reduce the load on the belt/shaft. steve.
01-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Flyinrazrback
Veteran
Location: Shreveport LA

Well, if Augusto recommends it with the avant with the belt, I will stick to his advice, after all its his heli.
01-08-2006 Over year old.
 
 
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