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Antiques or Out of Business > Schluter Cheyenne

chris daws
Heliman
Location: World Traveller, Back in Taiwan

Ok guys
Been looking through all the posts and you got me remembering my old helis, mini boy and Champion.
Always dreamt about a Cheyenne, looked so good in the Schluter catalogue
So does anybody know where i can find a Cheyenne for sale? Kit part built, built, interested to see what I can find.

Heres hoping for some response

12-31-2005 Over year old.

Thomas L Erb
Veteran
Location: Alliance ohio

Chris i guess if you can dream about it so can i . so lets go guys we need 2 cheyenne's Tom

01-29-2006 Over year old.

chris daws
Heliman
Location: World Traveller, Back in Taiwan

help us with our dream please

Hi Tom
Happy to have you on board with my dream. I must say it's not looking to good , your the only reply I've had so far. I've also put the same request on a few other sites. I intend to keep looking. I fact if i could find a fuz to borrow i'd be tempted to make a copy . I reckon I could make most of the mechanics, I've got my old Champion to use as a basis for the head parts. If we coulod get a copy of the original drawing that would also give us a big step forward.
So anybody out there can you help us in our dream

I've got a Webra engine and the Schluter exhaust system, no stopping me now!

Chris

01-29-2006 Over year old.

Thomas L Erb
Veteran
Location: Alliance ohio

Hi Chris at the very least if we could get ahold of a fuse to make a copy we would be half way there. i got the tail system figured out already. Minairs twin tail slightly modified would get me close to a good working solution to a real workable tail system. Im right there with ya. Keep in touch if you hear of anything Tom

01-30-2006 Over year old.

heli_headcase
Key Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

Make that three...

Hi Guys,

I have a new SX-81 mechanics set all ready to find a home inside a Cheyenne body. Actually have two sets but one wil be built into the SX-81 body. This will leave me with one spare SX-81 fuse set.

Steve
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HHC

So many heli's - too little time...

01-30-2006 Over year old.

chris daws
Heliman
Location: World Traveller, Back in Taiwan

Keep looking there must be more bits out there

Hi Steve
So if we can't find any more mechanics we have yours to work from , looking at pictures and knowing the Schluter gear I think I could make all the parts needed to make the transmission.

Does anybody know hwere there are any SX81 or Cheyenne drive train parts.

Has anybody got a fuselage we could use to make a mould then I can get everybody that wants one a fuselage

Chris

01-30-2006 Over year old.

heli_headcase
Key Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

Chassis Parts

Hi Chris,

I can make pictures available. The frames are the typical flat plates and the rotor system is Heliboy. The only odd parts are the gears used to couple the engine to the centrifugal clutch. Those are fairly large - maybe 40 or 50 teeth each (but the same size as each other) and the clutch assembly is attached to the top of the second gear. Lost yet?

Your old Schluter catalog should illustrate the drive system very well and if original gears can't be located, suitable replacements are easy to find.

I need an original fuse for my heli display but a repro would be fine for flying about.

Steve
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HHC

So many heli's - too little time...

01-30-2006 Over year old.

Badgerfarm
Senior Heliman
Location: Missouri

Count me in on the SX-81 too. I would like to be able to find one to add to my collection.

01-31-2006 Over year old.

chris daws
Heliman
Location: World Traveller, Back in Taiwan

Pictures yes please

Steve
If you could take some pictures in such a way that you are flat on too the item and include a ruler in the picture it will help me get more accurate picture of what I need to make. This would be much appreciated
I suspect If I can get hold of a fuz from some body to make a mould then there will be a few people who would like a fuz, as you say it's better flying with a replica fuz than the original.
If some body has a damaged fuz I can restore it to use as a plug for the mould.

So can anybody out there help us?

How many people would want a fuz if I can produce the mould ?, looks like about 4 or 5 at the moment

Chris

01-31-2006 Over year old.

heli_headcase
Key Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

Be Patient...

Hi Chris,

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If you could take some pictures in such a way that you are flat on too the item

Ahh...you mean to hold the camera perpendicular to the parts

Can do but I hope you don't mind waiting for a few weeks. The parts are 700 miles away at this time. I may be able to scan the flat parts and provide a less distorted pattern. Will be sure to provide a readable scale on the same scan.

Let me know if pictures of other unusual parts would help too. Also, depending on cost, I could make copies of the Schluter SX-81 plans. The plans may provide a 1-1 scale of the flat aluminium bits too.

Later,
Steve
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HHC

So many heli's - too little time...

01-31-2006 Over year old.

v22chap
Senior Heliman
Location: Howe, Indiana

Man ,,I would love to have a SX -81 again and the Cheyenne fuse too.Never got the fuse the first time around but would love it this time and even if I had to retrofit a modern day mechanics in it ....

Larry

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters

01-31-2006 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

tean
Senior Heliman
Location: Gloucestershire,UK

Greetings fellow Cheyenne fans,
Looks like I'm the lucky one here cause I've actually got one! I had been searching for years and finally got one from a wanted ad on the BMFA site. There are a few pics of it as it arrived in my gallery.
It looks quite rough in the pics, but it's actually in perfect condition and has hardly been flown. The original owner painted it black and found he couldn't see it, so he sanded it down to repaint, but never finished it. It had been sitting in his loft for about 20 years.

Firstly, I've got all the original plans and manuals which I'm going to copy for Chris, so if anyone else wants copies, please say and I'll see if I can get them online somewhere.

Secondly, as mine is still stripped down and unpainted, I would be quite happy to get a mould from it and make copies available. I don't think Herr Schluter will mind. If you're genuinely interested, post it here so I can get idea of the numbers involved.

The mechanics are a special set, but are mainly based on HeliBoy parts. A HeliBoy will privide 90% of the mechanics and they were so common, it shouldn't be too hard to find one.

The canopy on mine has been partially painted black and then coated with what looks like satin fuelproofer. Does anyone know a way of removing this without damaging the trasparent plastic underneath? The fuelproofer is not too bad as I can scrape it off with my fingernails, but the paint is a problem.

Regards
Andy

Logo14 Vbar, Logo500 CSM flybarless, Trex 600 CSM flybarless, 3DMP, Logo10, Lipoly, Mini T, .......

01-31-2006 Over year old.

heli_headcase
Key Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

My hand is raised!

Hi tean,

I'm on the list for all parts too except for the mechanics. I own some NIB SX-81 mechs and I believe they're the same as the Cheyenne's.

As for the canopy: I would not try to restore your current one to like-new condition. It could be wet sanded once to remove all traces of paint and then sanded again with ever finer paper but you may accidently squash it in the process. Best to clean it up as best you can and then use it as a master from which to create a mold and make new parts. Then install a new, shiny and perfectly clear canopy on the restored or reproduced fuse. Does that sound like a reasonable plan?

Same goes for the cooling shroud parts as they are also unique to this heli. Hey, what am I saying? I have (or should have) a new, never cut shroud in my SX kit! D'OH!!!

I smell some trading coming on...

Later,
Steve
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HHC

So many heli's - too little time...

01-31-2006 Over year old.

tean
Senior Heliman
Location: Gloucestershire,UK

Hi Headcase,
That sounds like a good plan to me, but I've never tried moulding anything like that before. Any chance of quick "how to" please? Also where to get plastic to start with? I'll have try something simillar with the fan shroud as it's in poor, brittle condition. Unless I stick with my current plan "softly" convert to electric power. If I can do it without drilling or cutting anything, it can always be put back to original. The mechanics, with their two stage gearing, are particularly easy to fit an electric motor to. All my other helis are now electric. It's so much better; no mess, no noise, no vibration, no lean runs or dodgy glow plugs, just smooth, reliable power.

Thanks

Andy

Logo14 Vbar, Logo500 CSM flybarless, Trex 600 CSM flybarless, 3DMP, Logo10, Lipoly, Mini T, .......

01-31-2006 Over year old.

v22chap
Senior Heliman
Location: Howe, Indiana

Andy ,,,put me down for a fuse ,,depending on the price and time frame ,,in no big hurry ,,so take your time and do a good job.
Keep us posted on the electric conversion if you go that way ...sounds like the best way to go.
Larry

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters

01-31-2006 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

Thomas L Erb
Veteran
Location: Alliance ohio

Tean I would be willing to do the fuse replication for you and all involved. I have made many molds and i can also do the vacuforming . larry bergen can attest to my molding abilities I would only need use of a fuse and It would not be at risk of being destroyed. It would only need smoothed ( filled and thin paint coat) to make it ready to make a mold out of. Please let me know if this is possiable It would fullfil many of our dreams. For the use of the fuse i would not charge that person a penny for his copy. Tom

02-01-2006 Over year old.

v22chap
Senior Heliman
Location: Howe, Indiana

There you go ,,that would solve the problem of not knowning how to do the molds,,unless of course you really want to learn..but it would probably be best to try on a fuse that you could replace ...hey if you need refferences he gave Larry Bergen as one and I know Larry would talk to ya on the phone ,,,email might take a little longer .
Larry

Larry C ----------Bergen R/C helicopters

02-01-2006 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

Thomas L Erb
Veteran
Location: Alliance ohio

Additional info : I have made many molds for a friend that makes various fiberglass parts for kit manufactures. My specialty is making the molds themselves and also plugs for vacuforming. The largest mold i have made for him is the fuse for a Miles Reed design 80' extra 260. I built the plug, the parting board and the 2pc mold itself. If doing anything to the original is out of the question i could just use it as referance to make a foam copy. but it would take a lot more time and a lot more work. just a thought. Tom

02-01-2006 Over year old.

chris daws
Heliman
Location: World Traveller, Back in Taiwan

Moulding plastic parts

Andy
If you can let me use your plastic parts I can make a mould and vacuum mould as many as you need, My friend and I have vacuum moulded many canopies and shrouds. We either make our own original moulds or use an existing part as headcase suggested to produce a mould from which to vacuum form other copies.
So as I understand we need canopy and 2 halves of the cooling shroud?

Chris

02-01-2006 Over year old.

heli_headcase
Key Veteran
Location: Hovering around Atlanta

Where was I...?

Hey, sorry to be out of the loop for a while.

tean:

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Any chance of quick "how to" please?

First thing is nothing is ever 'quick' from me

Second, I have only limited knowledge of the process so I'm no good as a teacher...yet. I'm planning on reproducing some of my new condition, old heli parts but not for a year or so from now. I know the basic stages but until I put them into practice I'll not give out incorrect steps. Sorry!

Chris:

I have a perfect pair of cooling shroud halves. Still with their excess flash borders. Very easy to copy. Also have a large 4X8' roll of clear PET-G been saving for just such a purpose. It's .030" thick. Cheap material and forms very easy. Would be about perfect for the canopy but probably too thick for the shroud.

I guess I'm hinting at something here but someone please tell me what

Steve
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HHC

So many heli's - too little time...

02-01-2006 Over year old.

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