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boku
Heliman
Location: Utah

So Gary What you are saying is you are feeding everybody a line. Gary send me this pm
Gary Travis wrote on 01-05-2006 08:27 PM:
Hi boku

Being that I am manufactering these and selling them, I don't think I want to post who my supplliers are.
Gary

I am amazed at how Gary has his hands into everything but nothing ever comes of it.I don't mean to Rip on you Gary but put your money where your mouth is.. You always make it sound like you are the only one that can get anything. I still think that these are nothing more than cheap walmart noodles. I bought mine for $3.00 and they do hold up 200lbs. filmflyer is right. I think his link sums it up. If your gonna make statement then you better be willing to back it up or don't post it in the first place. You just end up making yourself look like a fool. Not that I care I just get tired of listing to all the BS.
01-06-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

Robert
I never said I was the only one who can get them, I found them when searching for some to make the floats work. I decided to make them and offer them for sale. I don't think it is wrong to protect where I get them, I will say they are not the walmart noodles. I yes I do get into diferent things that is my nature I enjoy it and also support my family doing it. I am not trying to p###s anyone off just trying to venture into new directions as I have always done. I did not say Filmflyer was lying or anything to that effect I just stated my experience with the Noodles. If it was taken any other way accept my appoligies.
Gary

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01-06-2006 Over year old.
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Chris Bergen
Key Veteran
Location: location

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I get them from an undustrial company, Problem is you muts by 4 case minimum at 128 per case.



I think the point here is that Gary already has purchased quite a bit of these, and would like to sell some of it to recoup his costs before everyone jumps on them as well.

And please don't ask me where I get my main shaft material, cuz I won't tell ya!!

Chris Bergen
01-06-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Tristan Buhler
Senior Heliman
Location: SLC, Utah

don't mean to butt in but remember it can say will float 200lbs. but I would lke to see a 200lb man standing on one and still be dry. even if you stiffened it up. I am sure a 1 inch noodle will float the heli but it will be submerged.

Tristan Buhler
01-06-2006 Over year old.
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boku
Heliman
Location: Utah

Everybody,
I need to clearify something. I am not p###ed off at Gary, And like Chris said if he is just trying to recoup his cost for buying the extra noodles then I don't have a problem with that either. I am not trying to slam you gary, but I don't understand that you tell everybody the only way that they can get them is to buy 512 noodles. and then we have to contact you to get them.
The whole thing seems a little fishy thats all.I think that its great that your trying new things and I am not trying to judge you
I am not trying to any bad feelings if I did Gary I apologize next time though to save any question about the validity you might want to mention your intent like Chris mentioned. Sorry about the mess up

Robert
01-06-2006 Over year old.
 
 
charger
Senior Heliman
Location: Spencer MA.USA

First we were discussing Gary's noodle ,then Chris brings up the subject of his main shaft again,and now tbuhler2 still doesn't think it will work even if you stiffen it up.
My wife going to think I visiting those other web sites again and my butt will be flying faster than my heli's

Old chinese proverb.don't dwell on past crash, but look forward to future flight
01-06-2006 Over year old.
 
 
chilipepper
Heliman
Location: Dickinson, ND

I agree it may be getting a little out of hand here... Gary's makin' noodles of which he would like to peddle a few to recoup his costs. If anyone wants to go research and develop their own noodles and find a distributor for what works... hey its a free country. I particularly trust Gary and his ideas/advice.

I know if I were flying my Observer over water and really had no intention of landing on it... I'd still have them on. If I had a chronic relapse of dumb thumbs and it would keep my heli off the bottom of the drink I believe it would come back on you twofold. Gary did the trials so that is one less thing for me to have to wonder and worry about.

Best of luck!
01-07-2006 Over year old.
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3drocks
Heliman
Location: dubois Idaho

pool floats

Gary how much for your floats. Also with all the controversy could we see them in action on the water floating a Bergen EB as some proof before purchasing them. Some pics or even better some video would be cool. tbuhler2 has some pics in the air but lets see it on the water. How far down do the floats sink? is there any worry about sinking too low and tail blades hitting the water or any electronics being submerged. pics please
01-11-2006 Over year old.
 
 
Gary Travis
Veteran
Location: Utah

I will get some pics as soon as I can, They sink about half way down when in water. The is always a chance of dropping the tail when landing. I am working on something at present to correct that issue if it comes up. When I did test them idid not set down extremely hard. If you experienced a hard landing there is always a chance of getting things wet. My intention was not to make them as a solution for a crash in water, but to allow someone to make a controlled landing on water. Also I have been asked if the floats go onto the existing landing gear skids, the answer is no there is an aluminum frame, and half inch aluminum skids in order to keep them rigid enough.

Gary

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01-11-2006 Over year old.
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helichica
Heliman
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Are these still available Gary?
Any water landing photos?

My Joker is lighter than the Bergen, so I'm assuming this system would possibly work.
04-22-2007 Over year old.
 
 
pete haywood
Heliman
Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

check out the pic's in my gallery if you want to see floats that will hold a Bergen Observer EB well out of 'waters way' - and really work - not just maybe !!
08-01-2007 02:42 AM
 
 
Autoeject
Key Veteran
Location: Ashtabula, OH, USA

Nice, Pete. What did you use? It seems to ride very high in the water. They must be very boyant.

Mark Webber
wai-rc.com
Spartan RC Distributor
Outrage Helicopters
08-01-2007 10:27 AM
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pete haywood
Heliman
Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

Howdy Mark,
I wanted to be able to take off and land on water plus 'spool down' so that I could retrieve the heli from a speed boat. Well I definitely didn't want my Observer getting wet so keeping it sitting high and dry with plenty of stability was essential.

pete's el cheapo all purpose floats
1.
Take two pieces of white paper approx. 1 metre long and wide enough to create two tubes, each with a diameter of 120mm and tape the full length.
2.
Grab a couple of spray cans of 'expander foam' from the hardware ( for sealing cracks and gaps ) and after blocking one end of the paper tube you have made, fill with the 'expander foam' and leave to set. Once hard you can cut and file/sand the ends to suit. Grab some heat shrink film for covering planes from the hobby shop while your down town and cover. You'll want to imbed and glue a 'stringer' into the top of each float before you cover - so you can attach a spare set of landing gear. ( a stringer is that piece of wood that is down the centre of a surfboard to stop it snapping if you get dumped)
They're a little heavy but work fine.


( instead of making the tubes round I made them 'egg shaped' for more stability on the water but round would work fine )

pete's more expensive floats ( am making at the moment )
1.
Same as above with the expander foam but after you have shaped the floats, cover with carbon fibre and resin. Leave one end open and remove all the expander foam before capping the open end with a pre made end unit. Make an extra tube just long enough to create two ends for this purpose.
2.
Attach a spare set of landing gear into the floats with some more carbon fibre and resin.
08-01-2007 12:40 PM
 
 
Autoeject
Key Veteran
Location: Ashtabula, OH, USA

Very creative and better than most of the alternatives, IMO. Make sure to post a pic of the Pete's Floats v2 when completed

Mark Webber
wai-rc.com
Spartan RC Distributor
Outrage Helicopters
08-01-2007 05:13 PM
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pete haywood
Heliman
Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

I hope to get the weight down to about half that of the 'el cheap o 'set.
08-02-2007 12:57 AM
 
 
raptor lee
Heliman
Location: Walker, MN U.S.A.

Instead of trying to keep the Bergen dinosaurs afloat, I would suggest that a better application would be to tie a rope to them and use them for an anchor.
08-21-2007 12:36 PM
 
 
Chris Bergen
Key Veteran
Location: location

Gee raptor,

Why don't you tell us who you really are so maybe we can figure out how we offended you?

Chris Bergen
08-21-2007 07:20 PM
 
 
pete haywood
Heliman
Location: Hobart, Tasmania, Australia

raptor lee - didn't you know that Bergen heli's are muli - functional.
08-21-2007 10:09 PM
 
 
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