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Tandem Rotor Helis Vertol Chinook > Marine Corp Vertol detailing
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

I'll be starting my Vertol soon and I'm interested in some tips and links for detailing the heli. A site I found for photos here

A couple of things I'm interested are:

Working winch with a cargo hook
True to scale lighting as well as where to find them

I'd like to add a working cargo ramp and free up the front wheel for ground taxi.

Anyone?

Thanks,
Don
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Nothing huh?

I was hoping that this site my be helpful during this build. I was told of another site, ScaleRChelis that I guess I'll have to run over to for this.

Thanks anyway.
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

I got your back on this just gimme a bit o time....

EDIT

this is the thread I stole the idea from the working ramp (thanks van)
http://runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/2471/
http://runryder.com/helicopter/t958...ighlight=Vertol
mines a little more simplistic and less detailed but works none the less....

here's the link for the rescue hoist and cargo hook
http://www.starwoodmodels.com/produ...221overview.php

the curtec light systems
http://www.starwoodmodels.com/products/cur/
I'm running the 5 light system expanded with another 3 lights (for hover lights) and controlling the hoist and Cargo hook w/ the curtec system as well (well in theory havent actually installed the curtec system yet....)


the starwood rivet system
http://www.starwoodmodels.com/products/ssm/rivetkit.php

budget scale fittings
http://www.starwoodmodels.com/products/lhc/

MORE scale fittings
http://us.vario-helicopter.biz/shop/index.php?cPath=31

and for full scale photos look at RC heli-spot . com for CH 47 pics posted by copterdoctor....he has a plethora of SUPER detailed pics he took (requested by yours truly) I got em still but have to retreive them from my ye ol' crashed confuser...

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and free up the front wheel for ground taxi.


still working that angle....I gotta few ideas but only in my head....nothing concrete and on the airframe as of yet....more to follow....

"What the HELL was that?" Mayor of Hirshima 6 Aug 1945.
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Eyal M.
Heliman
Location: Israel

My DIY Vertol

Hi,
You may look in my gallery and see my huge tandem project. It is twice the size of the Hirobo small tandem and it flies much better. It's all self designed and manufactured by me, the fuse is made from curved balsa and plywood. I'm finishing the cockpit details now and then I will fly it with the fuse.
Eyal.
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Eyal M., Nice scratch build! Lifts over 25 pounds, amazing!.

rotorpsyco,
Copterdoctor must have rotated his photos. Still some great scale detail photos though. The links you showed me have some really great stuff. I'm not so sure I can acomplish anything near the level of detail as some of these guys but I should have fun with this build either way.
You've really been a great help so far. Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. From what you've told me so far I'm looking foreword to seeing your finished project.
I went down to MRC yesterday to have lunch with Jeff and to pick up the kit. He showed off the CH-47 he built. Hirobo did a really nice job putting this kit together with the avionics package as well as the construction of the mechanics.
When I got home I pulled the painted fuse out to see what I was getting into. The painting is second to none and the level of detail out of the box is simply amazing. The kit is pricey but seems to be well worth it.

Thanks again!
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
swattley
Veteran
Location: West Milford NJ

is it going to have a army green look to it? send me some pics of it or put some in your gallery
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Fresh out of the box! Here's a size compasison next to my Freya EVO90:


Right and left photos:



It may be a little while until it's a finished project. I've joined a new Scale forum thanks abain to rotorpsyco,the ideas I've been shown are truly amazing.
12-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

No prob Dg, glad to help....others have helped and continue to help me along the way and I'm grateful for that... glad I could pass something along... I look forward to seeing your build....heck if I would have gotten the painted fuse I think I would have been done by now!

Oh I do believe that copterdocters photos were uploaded to the full scale section of the spot... you may want to try there....if not I'll get them retrieved from my confuser in the next few days....hopefully before I go out of town...

"What the HELL was that?" Mayor of Hirshima 6 Aug 1945.
12-18-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Well even though I've beel a little occupied with Christmas I've gotten it pretty far I think. I'm up to creating all the link arms and installing the receiver, gyro, and the mixer.

Other photos are in my gallery.
12-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

very nice DG you've gotten further in a few days than
I've gotten in a few months!

"What the HELL was that?" Mayor of Hirshima 6 Aug 1945.
12-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Thanks!

This one hell of a kit. I ran out of locktite at one point because of all the screws holding it together. They designed this thing like it was a bridge. I guess since any twisting of the frame could make it unstable in flight.

All I'm waiting for is a receiver since I ordered a Futaba by mistake. Once that get's here I can start building up the linkages and routing all of the wires. Then it's off to MRC to let Jeff look it over for me and give me some pointers of tweaking the mixer control.

Work in progress.
12-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Looking Good!!!!

That just looks like one fun project!!!!!
You are doing a great job, and please keep us posted... this is a favorite heli and one of these days, I will have to just bite the bullet and order mine too.....
Keep up the good work....... and being close to Jeff, is a real plus for the set up.....
Good Luck with it...... Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
12-26-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Thanks Stan,

I pulled a receiver out of my Bell 47 so that I could start installing the link rods (there must be 20) and the ballance of the electronics.

It should be ready for a test flight by next weekend.
12-27-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Atlas321
Senior Heliman
Location: Bridgewater, New Jersey

I'll bring the camera.....

AMA # 760459 Hyper Evo 50 / Trex SE
12-27-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

The fist flight will be with Jeff at an undisclosed location

I'll bring my camera and hopefully post some in flight and post flight photos
12-27-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

I had a good night tonight. All of the linkages are in and are as mechanically aligned as I can get them. The mixer has been adjusted so that all of the controls work as they should. The swash plates are level as can be.

The kicker was the manual for setting up the mixer which was pointed out to me by modtron. Without this I had no chance of getting it done.

I had servos reversed which can't be changed through the radio as you would do on a single head heli. I had to switch out a couple of mixes to allow the swash plates to tilt properly through the aileron and also the rudder inputs.

Everything is acting as it should now. Next thing to do is to start setting the blade pitch on all SIX blades and to secure the battery, switch, Duralite regulator, and receiver. Once that's done I can spool it up to condition the main drive belt without the blades in place then check and tighten it as required.

I've ordered the lighting kit from Starwoods and looking into a cargo hook so I can take E30TECH's cat for a ride

So far I've added up my time and I'm up to less than 12 hours. I figure I've got another 4 or so until I have the fuse on it. So far it's been a blast getting into something so technical. Learning how to fly it should be just as much fun.
12-28-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Salty
Elite Veteran
Location: Jville Fl...Ahhhh getting better

good job DG you cant go wrong with the gear your using....I hope you went through starwood for your light kit..... seems that curtec if you buy from the manufacture is quite slow....

"What the HELL was that?" Mayor of Hirshima 6 Aug 1945.
12-28-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

Yes I did. I'm also thinking about their cargo hook. It's a little pricey but at least is comes with it's own servo.

I'll have a couple more photos to share once I get it running. The wire harness came out really clean as well considering all of the servos had extensions added onto them. Plus I put in a GV-1 so I had the sensor wire that had to feed all the way back.

Thanks again for the help and kind words.

Don
12-28-2005 Over year old.
 
 
doorman
Elite Veteran
Location: E.Berne, NY

Time!!!!

Twelve hours to be as far along as you are is incredible.... I would have thought a lot longer then that.... great job....
And glad to hear you were able to get the info on the mixer....
But can you tell us why the info was not included in the kit??? Sounds as if it should be since it is so important to the build??

And PLEASE post a picture of the "cat" taking a ride....


Looking forward to seeing this baby in the air.....

Stan

If there is a cure for this, please don't tell me about it!!!
12-28-2005 Over year old.
 
 
dgshaffer
Elite Veteran
Location: New Jersey

The manual that was included in the kit showed just basic information. Maybe the manual was left out in error.

I will tell you that without it I had no hope of getting everything to work as it should unless I sat there and just started hitting buttons until I figured out what did what.

As far as the time to get as far as I am, I think that by first reading and understanding the manual had a lot to do with it. There are quite a few small details that could be done wrong forcing a lot of rework.

Having everything I needed to build it all laid out and just moving step by step made it go pretty quickly. The manual is very clear as well and all of the steps are packaged perfectly. The longest step was building the linkages. Having the link tools with one in an electric drill made that part easy. I built all of them at once and sized the ends. When it came time to install them I only had minor adjustments to make to ensure all of the bell cranks were 90* to the links.

Crash enough helis and building them gets pretty easy.
12-28-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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