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Avant Aurora - EFX - FX > Why so little coverage about the Avant?

mccomb40
Heliman
Location: Florence, AL

I'm just getting back into helis after a year and a half off and I notice this new Avant that appears to be an upgrade for the EVO 90. After looking through the forums I don't really see that much talk about it. From what little I have heard, It sounds like it's one of the top 3D helis on the market. This is an awesome looking heli and I'm on the brink of buying one. Anybody got any thoughts or comments about it?

By the way, is the carbon tail boom included in the Avant kit?

11-18-2005 Over year old.

A. Bundy
Elite Veteran
Location: Aurora,IL. 30W/SW of Chicago

I have seen Pete Niotis fly his,and it is awesome.I think everyone is waiting for the full kit to come out.......I have been seeing more and more Avant postings lately.I bet in the Spring there will be tons of them flying.

11-18-2005 Over year old.

spritefiend
Key Veteran
Location: Camarillo, CA

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By the way, is the carbon tail boom included in the Avant kit?

not unless it was included with the freya you plan on converting from.

edit: you can DL the current manual for it, and it shows whats needed.

including, tailboom, tail rotor assembly, main rotor assembly(main shaft is replaced, couple of arms replaced, slight mod to the head), main gears, clutch/engine stack, engine shroud and mount, and tank groumets.

this all assuming you want to go from the evo90, for the x-spec it comes with a shroud and the bracket.

if you plan on using the hirobo c/f boom, you need their c/f boom mount

11-18-2005 Over year old.

HOMEPAGE

tomthumb
Senior Heliman
Location: Duarte California

Avant is a very nice kit. I just finished building mine. I no complaints about the hardware in the kit. In fact, well worth the money. The one gripe I do have is that I wish the instructions gave more info about what the head mods do as well as what the differant holes in the new mixing arms do.

LOWER LOWER DOH!!!

11-18-2005 Over year old.

MoneyPitVictim
Veteran
Location: Dayton, Ohio

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The one gripe I do have is that I wish the instructions gave more info about what the head mods do as well as what the differant holes in the new mixing arms do.

Try PM Chopper who is one of the point guys flying the Avant. He could help you on the different flybar mixing ratios and what they will do for your flying.
Regards

Santiago

11-18-2005 Over year old.

3DNinja Guy
Heliman
Location: Wichita, Ks

mccomb40
Best 3D Heli yet. (I'm sure someone will flame me on that one..

). I just bought my 3rd one, and going to use the EX T/R shaft drive system & WC Head (Hirobo). Get one man..you'll love it.!
David Berry 3DNinja Guy

11-18-2005 Over year old.

JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: Town of California in the state of Maryland

mccomb40,
It is an awesome heli. The carbon and metal work are absolutely top notch and on top of that is the superb engineering behind the design.

I think two reasons you don't see even more around right now are the perceived cost and initial low production numbers. Folks seem to think that the Avant costs the conversion kit plus a full Freya, X-Spec, or Evo 90 kit and thus well above other more common competitors. It does at first, but don't forget you can turn and around sell all the parts you don't need from whichever Hirobo kit you start with. And that really adds up and reduces the overall cost.

The conversion kits were initially difficult to obtain and required a lengthy wait time. That has changed now as production was drastically increased earlier this year and the kits are now easily available. You will definitely see more and more around.

Everyone that sees my Avant just stands there and stares at it saying something like, "That will be my next heli."

BTW, if someone wants to break into the world of the Avant, check out http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t214765p1/ for a steal of a deal.

- John

Protos -- Logo 14 -- Logo 10

11-18-2005 Over year old.

tomthumb
Senior Heliman
Location: Duarte California

Got to fly my Avant EFX for the first time today. Holy $h1t. I didn't think a 90 could perform like this. Awesome roll rate, feels 1 pound lighter than my Stock EVO 90. Autos incredible! Pitch pumping is awe inspiring. Tracks very well yet nimble ass heck!! This is running rich as heck on a new motor not really broken in all the way. Thanks Augusto for new favorite Nitro Heli!!!

Anybody thinking of the price being a deterrent. Get the thought out of your head! Read my words, WORTH EVERY PENNY!! My raptor will see very little to no time now thats for sure.

LOWER LOWER DOH!!!

11-20-2005 Over year old.

4cyclic
Senior Heliman
Location: Montreal, Can.

Check out the latest MHW mag, it's got a great front page article about the Avant.

I love flying my Avants

Jean-Luc

11-20-2005 Over year old.

mccomb40
Heliman
Location: Florence, AL

What servos are you using? The manual says to use metal gear servos since the plastic ones are easy to strip.

11-21-2005 Over year old.

tomthumb
Senior Heliman
Location: Duarte California

airtronics 94758 on cyclic/collective

LOWER LOWER DOH!!!

11-21-2005 Over year old.

JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: Town of California in the state of Maryland

Futaba S9255 is the now recommended servo. I'm using 9252s and don't plan to change any time soon.

- John

Protos -- Logo 14 -- Logo 10

11-21-2005 Over year old.

Augusto
rrAdvertiser
Location: San Diego, CA

The Christmas issue of MHW has coverage of the Avant

Augusto.

Avant Aurora Ultimate

11-26-2005 Over year old.

tomthumb
Senior Heliman
Location: Duarte California

The more I fly my Avant, the more I am disgusted with how badly my other heli's fly...LOL

LOWER LOWER DOH!!!

11-27-2005 Over year old.

u.k. sailor
Veteran
Location: cambs uk

hi tom thumb i was wondering what other 90 helis you are compareing the Avant with? the 90's fly better than the 50's IMO so prefer flying these. I do however love my EVO 50 and think the EVO 90 should be better so if the avant is better than that it must be awsome.
It looks to me as though it will be tough between the avant and synergy when available

11-27-2005 Over year old.

Jafa
Elite Veteran
Location: Sydney, Australia

Sailor, I agree that the Sceadu Evo is a little Ripper and I can understand your comment about 90's flying better - but - the Avant, Stratos and Synergy are in a different league, you have to see it believe it. Taipan is doing death spirals in the Avant that are twice as fast as his XSpec and he even has time to stop and throw 2 knife edge piro's in and then continue the death spiral and come out inverted nose in - it's really fast and responsive in a way that 90's normally aren't

Lepton | TRex600Nitro | Sceadu | Freya | Avant | Predator Carbon Max

11-27-2005 Over year old.

u.k. sailor
Veteran
Location: cambs uk

Hi Jafa, have you seen the other models you mention in the flesh? I know that the synergy has been flown in OZ.
The problem I have is that I haven't seen these models in the flesh iether flying or not, so I am looking to buy based on how i like the way the model is designed, any videos I can find and the opinions of people like yourself who have seen them first hand. factors like cost and how well suported the product is are also considerations.
Personaly I like the look of the Synergy and the fact it is a full kit rather than a conversion is a plus for me. Having seen video of Eric Larson flying the Stratus it does seem that it changes direction very quickly and I think that being light weight is a big help here, the Avant is I believe lighter than the Synergy,. There does appear to be a design trend now for giveing improved performance in 3D flying and I am sure they are all a blast to fly perhaps in the end a lot of it will come down to the feel a pilot likes

11-27-2005 Over year old.

stules
Senior Heliman
Location: Japan

Good point UK, it comes down to how the feel is to the pilot.
To a certain degree, once you get to the top end of the helis available, setup must get to be very important to get the feel that you want. I am sure that you can make a vibe or a stratus or a Raptor fly with horrible feel if you set it up that way. Having said that, you will never get a 10 year old design to fly that well either, materials and design and production precision have come too far since then.
My point is, that once you get to the top end of the field, you may be able to adjust in the feel you desire to a certain extent. So pick the design you like the look of. If you get tired of it, sell it, and get the next latest and greatest.

11-27-2005 Over year old.

u.k. sailor
Veteran
Location: cambs uk

hahaha well said stules, but I think there is a balance in that while set up does make a lot of difference, and I am working on making sure I have the blades paddles etc that make a model fly as well as I can to my likeing, but it does seem that helis from different manufacturers seem to have a particular feel or characteristics, so it probably isn't possible to get say the top three 3D machines from different comanies to fly the same.
so yes I like your Idea of just try them all! wonder what the bank account would think of that?
Also I am at a point of wanting to settle with a heli I am happy with for a longer period of time so I really get the best from the machine that I am capable of
cheers

11-28-2005 Over year old.

Jafa
Elite Veteran
Location: Sydney, Australia

You really cannot go wrong with a Stratos - fantasic in my opinion (even though I am a Hirobo man and have an Avant kit waiting to be built). The standard head settings will rock your world - and there is more/faster cyclic's in reserve if you are up to it.

I am Taipan's flying buddy and mechanic (Taipan is partly deaf so needs a bit of hand with engine tuning). In return, Taipan is teaching me how to fly well - it's a great partnership. So yes, I've seen the Avant many times and we've been experimenting with different head settings. The agility and speed of the Avant is stunning.

I took photo's of the Synergy here in OZ and watched it fly. On the ground during the preflight check it was clear that the collective speed was stunning - not sure how many people will like it that fast. It flew great, no question. You're correct on the weight, we held Taipan's Avant side by side with the Synergy, even though the Avant has the heavy MP290 is was still noticably lighter. However, many deatils of the Synergy failed to light my fire - personal preferences issues really.

Lepton | TRex600Nitro | Sceadu | Freya | Avant | Predator Carbon Max

11-28-2005 Over year old.

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