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Speed - Performance - Drag Race > World's Electric Helo Speed Record Broken
 
 
KenJ
Veteran
Location: Ohio, USA

9C

I actually need to build a second 600 EP ship for 3D work, the all out speed machine has fins and cowlings that really kill any 3D.

As far as the swash interation, what are you seeing?

Before the full fuselage dress on my XeroG, I did a lot of 3D and didn't seem to notice any interaction.

There is of course the possibility that I might not know it if I had it, but the machine behaves better than my stock glow R-50 in manuevers.

I do recall having to play with the linearity of the pitch curve around the center of travel (0° pitch) to make it fly the way I liked.

I am using the standard 9252 Futaba digital servos on the ccpm and carrying a separate on board battery pack, 4.8 volt nicads.

hmmm


I do agree with you, hopefully the pricing and weight will come down on batteries next year to allow more people to get into the electric side of heli flight.


Next year in this area we are going to start "Barrell Racing" kinda like they did in Vegas. That looked like the next best thing between drag racing and pylon racing!!

The Xero is made for that kind of event.

Can't wait!!!

Thanks,

Ken
11-18-2005 Over year old.
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Yug
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Location: Niatirb Taerg

Ken, yeap, I have 9252's as well, driving all QuickUK stuff.
I noticed that my lefthand servo seemed to always lead the righthand servo, doesn't matter which direction. The right hand was always late.
In another thread, Jkos has done a whole load of experiments concerning latency on various transmitters/receivers. His answer to my problem was that the 9C has the worst latency out of the lot. The latency is between higher and lower channels. This means that as you increase (or decrease) the collective, each of then 3 servos don't move at precisely the same time although after the change in pitch, they do all come to rest correctly. I proved this myself using a lazer mounted on the swash, and indeed once the beam has travelled 12 foot, It magnifies any irregularities and the "dancing swash" can clearly be seen. I can't yet afford a 14MZ, but this is the fastest system you can get, latencys are 20ms ish while the C9 is 120ms !
I have found that with fast pitch changes, I have to make cyclic corrections to compensate for this dancing.
Next year, I plan to build the 600e and use KO2123s on the swash as well as the 14MZ
11-18-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Real Raptors
Senior Heliman
Location: UK

Hi Ken
just noticed you snuck onto the end of the IRCHA 2005 DVD collecting your trophy, the drag race looked impressive and Jeff was on the DVD to with the other 600EP


Andy
11-18-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Xtreme34
Senior Heliman
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana

congrats .
12-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
airplanebuilder
Heliman
Location: girl

pusher engine?

has anyone tried adding a ducted fan or turbine engine for thrust. This should be easy to do. I bet you could hit 150!!

Sounds fun..

tom
03-11-2006 Over year old.
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KenJ
Veteran
Location: Ohio, USA

Everything in Time

Last year it was electric, this year I hope to concentrate more on the glow powered record.

Ducted fan engines are kinda neat, I actually have one in a 90 Xcell.

As far as top speed goes, there is an interesting relationship between speed, induced drag, and parasitic drag.

150? probably not, but 100? That can be done.

My Xero G Electric Raptor has been over 100, but not in a regulated record setting environment.

Turbines? Not yet.

Ducted fan engines? If you can get them geared correctly, and get them to stay together, maybe.

Summer may tell.

Ken
03-11-2006 Over year old.
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Real Raptors
Senior Heliman
Location: UK

Hi Ken
did the 600ep record get confirmed?

Andy
03-11-2006 Over year old.
 
 
George Matthews
Key Veteran
Location: N.W. Ohio

Ken,
Are you recording airspeed or ground speed for the record ?

George Matthews
Team MRC/Hirobo
Team Wildcat Fuels
03-11-2006 Over year old.
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KenJ
Veteran
Location: Ohio, USA

Hi Andy,

The Record has been confirmed by the NAA as a United States Record, but the FAI has not finished it up yet.

George,

The speed is the average of two ground speed runs in a measured course.

I do use the Seagull equipment (airspeed) for testing, but it is not recognized as offical for records.
03-12-2006 Over year old.
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FreddyFerris
Heliman
Location: Munich, Bayern - Germany

We got 183km/h with a nitro R50 last WE...

Mounted a small GPS in it..
Fred
03-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
AirWolfRC
Elite Veteran
Location: 42½ N, 83½ W

Keep one thing in mind, breaking records is just as much about the record as it is following all the specs. Not over weight, not too much engine, just the right kind of air frame, etc.

That's why some people just don't bother with official record setting.

Wolfgang
03-19-2006 Over year old.
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KenJ
Veteran
Location: Ohio, USA

It's all relative!

Airwolf,

You are absolutely correct.

The same machine that I ran at 121 km/hr, has done 162 km/hr in level flight during testing, and 202km/hr (126 mph) out of a very high, straight down dive.

All of the FAI regs are what make it interesting when setting records.

I would like to see the speed event brought back to the IRCHA events, in the past it was kinda fun!!

Ken
03-20-2006 Over year old.
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scott sr
Veteran
Location: Seaford Delaware

KEN Great job what a accomplishment enjoy your day in the spotlight and wish you many more to come .

Scott Sr. ><> ****Support Our Troops**** ><>
05-02-2006 Over year old.
 
 
fitenfyr
rrProfessor
Location: Port Orchard, Washington

Ken look you are famous.

http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archiv...ull.html#192164

Most of the way down the page in the section titled "Most Memorable Aviation Records Cited"

Pretty cool.

Jason Stiffey
Fly Fast....Live Slow...
05-04-2006 Over year old.
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rudyr
Heliman
Location: Gardena Ca USA

Ken, I am working on a V22 osprey tilt rotor. This has ccpm heads. The issue I find is the blades seem to max out regardless of pitch. I am trying to make blades with a twist to them, similar to a prop. The problem is that the inside of the blades stall because the fps is much slower than the tips. Any thoughts? You speed freeks must have come across this issue. What do you do about the blades?
Rudy

If you haven't done it 3 times your just getting started
05-19-2006 Over year old.
 
 
KenJ
Veteran
Location: Ohio, USA

Yup! - Kinda

Rudy, Check your PM.

Ken
05-19-2006 Over year old.
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KenJ
Veteran
Location: Ohio, USA

I Didn't see that one!!

Jason,

Thanks, I never saw that one.

I did however attend the NAA awards ceremony held at Regan National in Va.

WOW

Some pretty high faluten folk down there.

The guy setting right next to me was on the International Space Station twice. One of the original Muskigee (sp?) Airmen was there!
A lot of high ranking military types.

Check out these links;

From the NAA page;
http://www.naa.aero/html/records/index.cfm?cmsid=49

This group of parachutist were also honored;
http://www.cfworldrecord.com/2005/

There are some great videos on their web page!

Anyhow, thanks for noticing, I appreciate it.

Ken
05-19-2006 Over year old.
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JR_Vibefreak
Senior Heliman
Location: Bangkok Thailand & UAE Dubai

Has any1 Drag with the .90 size machine yet?
how fast is it?

JR4LIFE Philipp
07-05-2006 Over year old.
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