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gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

Still hovering the Blade CP in the kitchen, lost count of battery packs, and all with only one crash. Per suggestions, I did increase the gyro gain. The tail was very twitchy and as the battery drained down, the Blade would snap through 90 degrees of rotation. As hovering proficiency grew, I was able to be more aware of stick inputs. I discovered a couple of things. First, was that the Blade had a constant right-rotation tendency while in hover. I compensated by either left rudder input or left trim. I reduced the "proportional" adjustment in small steps until almost all of the rotation tendencies were eliminated. As a result, the tail required only small nudges for corrections. As a by-product, I was able to reduce gyro gain. The end result was a fairly stable and smooth flying Blade. Once off the floor, it will hover "hands-off" for several seconds at a time, requiring only small corrections to correct for drift. Using the approximately 10" square pattern of the floor, I can hover most of a battery pack off within the square. I've started to hover out front/back/right/left several squares, hold position, and move back. Still don't feel comfortable enough to go outside and attempt forward flight, but it sure is fun hovering in the house.

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
09-14-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Bladen 2
Heliman
Location: Central, IL

gmcullan,

Great job on the hovering! 1 CRASH, I am impressed! I had way more crashes than that...LOL.. Anyway, It may be different for you than it was for me, but you might want to go ahead and try hovering outside. I also hovered inside and got really good and used to it, then I got outside to hover and I ran into changes. I got used to what the BCP looked like down low and the feel of it, so when I got outside I took the blade a little higher and it was a different machine. It hovered much better after about 4 or 5 feet off the ground becuase of getting out of ground effect so it does feel different. Then when you get it above your head or even at eye level, it is really different. I just got so used to how it looked and what to look at, at that lower angle soe when I changed the view it felt much different. Once I got used to that, FF was no problem. In fact I think it is easier when I started out in FF than it was to learn how to hover. But anyway, just my 2 cents worth. Congrats on the hovering and hover orientation.. It is a truly awsome feeling makeing it defy gravity... Have a good one!!!

Flyin high, then fallen fast.....
09-14-2005 Over year old.
 
 
ESWLFSE
Elite Veteran
Location: Bradenton, FL USA

Definitely move outside. if you can hover that well any more inside hovering practice is a waste of time. The Blade is really the most fun for me in some wind.

Then when you move up to a Raptor 60 flying that is a piece of cake.
09-14-2005 Over year old.
 
 
gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

The last several days have been windy in New England, and with the windows open here in the house, I've had the joys of correctign for random wind gusts. All the fun of being outside with the convenience of being inside. I fully agree, hovering height seems to strongly effect control response and stability. Waist to shoulder height hovering is actually easier than just a couple of inches off the floor.

One of the more difficult aspects of learning to hover has getting rid of my "fixed wing" reactions. Just too many years of flying full-scale and R/C fixed-wing aircraft. Spending a lot of time over the past year with the "Real Flight" simulator has certainly helped, as I've been flying the simulator for much longer than the Blade. If anything, the Blade CP is easier to fly than the simulator. I've been experimenting with the parameters of the sim heli, getting closer to the flying characteristics of the Blade. But still not quite there.

My one and only crash to date was a ping-pong from the kitchen table to the stove to the washer and finally ending up in the cat's food dish. The only damage was the main and tail rotor blades. As other people have said, the Blade CP appears to be a tough little machine.

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
09-14-2005 Over year old.
 
 
lineman55
Senior Heliman
Location: Connecticut

Hovering your bird for the first time is a great feeling..I myself have been flying R/C aircraft for 6 yrs and now I have a great interest in helicopters.The transition took some practice ...wait till you try hovering in place and having it turns torward you and hold it there! Here's a tip on that scenerio:

Hovering your bird and having it turn towards you.
Remember to make slight adjustments...slight!
Once the heli is facing you....
If the heli starts to drift right.(your right).. apply right cyclic stick..
drifts left.(your left) apply. left cyclic stick
lean the cyclic stick in the direction the heli is drifting for correction
follow the drift with the stick moving in the direction of the drifting bird...small adjustments!!! then slowly turn the heli back around with the tail facing you. I guess you can call it our "comfort zone"
It takes a bit of practice but you will get used to it.
This will help you when you are ready for a slow transition to forward flight figure 8 's

Its a blast aint it?
James
09-14-2005 Over year old.
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lionel2341
Heliman
Location: New Jersey

All you have too remember when flying nose in is move your stick to the low blade, you would do the same for aircraft. This is the right way to learn how to fly nose in. It becomes second nature.

Ernie Emrich
1974 Eastern States Scale Champion (P-51 Mustang E2-S)
09-21-2005 Over year old.
 
 
gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

I have no problems at all with "nose in" or "nose out". Too many years of racing R/C cars has solved that problem. So far my only problems have been PIO (Pilot Induced Occilations). Surprisingly, moving the flybar weights to the full center position has made the Blade CP much easier to fly. Control response now is very crisp without being "touchy".

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
09-21-2005 Over year old.
 
 
mjdee14
Senior Heliman
Location: Nashville , TN

Whne you move outside it becomes even more fun....I love to use the "idle up", it seems much easiaer to control because your not changing both the speed and blade pitch. It makes for smoother controls...but is has gotten away a couple of times and crashed....but mostly no damage and just "dust" it off and fly again....

I hope being 58 yrs old won't hurt...cause I'm not sure this will ever become "second" nature....but then....4 weesk ago i couldn't hover either...now I can keep it in a 12 inch square...trying to move in front and do 90 deg patterns...

Flown rc for 40 yrs...but this is fun just hovering...

Mike... Blade CP, HBCP2, Revo w/belt drive, Zoom 400, Eco 8, Hurricane 550, DX7 2.4
09-22-2005 Over year old.
 
 
gmcullan
Veteran
Location: Southbridge, MA

I hear you on the fun of hovering. I wouldn't wory about the age thing. I'm knocking of the door of 54 and I'm still having a ball. I haven't raced R/C cars in a while, but do belong to a VERY competitive and active club of slot car racers. Surprisingly, or maybe not so, six of us out of the approximately 60 club members also fly heli's, all electric powered. We have three Picolo's, two Hummingbirds, and now my Blade. I ran a whole battery through the Blade last evening, and for about 9 minutes never got more than two feet off the floor nor more than 12 inches from my starting point. So very satisfying!

I'm still experimenting with proportional and gyro gain, as I'm almost certain I don't have the optimum settings. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions

Gerry Cullan,
HB CP2, T-Rex 450 SE & SA, HDX300, MicroHeli Monster, Mini-Titan, Blade 400
09-23-2005 Over year old.
 
 
pop's-heli
Heliman
Location: MIrabel , Quebec Canada

Just got a Esky Hony Bee cp2 a couple weeks ago I managed to hover it a
couple of times but I too am still playing aroud with the proportionning and
gain , 3 small crashes no damages but I strained my jaw muscels .
I'm 55 and having lotsa fun .
09-25-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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