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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > Is anyone else dissapointed with their Blade?
 
 
Mike Rojas
Senior Heliman
Location: New Orleans,LA

We I am extremely dissapointed wiyh my Blade. I am a pretty decent pilot,I fly an R-50,R-90,Ergo 50 etc. etc. with no problems with basic aerobatics. My Blade hasn't flown well ever! It did fly,but really bad. A friend who is an extremely competent pilot tried it also and hated it,crashed it also. I've done all the mods/fixes and have the enhancement kit installed but I have decided to give up on it,too frustrating. BTW I have flown a friends Honeybee 2 decently. I read all these positive post and just can't believe I am the only who feels this way. Oh well,I think I'll get a real electric mini and get a T-Rex. Just wondering if anyone else feels the same way.
Mike
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
tsitalon1
Heliman
Location: Montgomery AL

I was able to fly it and hover it indoors and out. And I am a newbie heli pilot. Howvere, the tail control SUCKS. SO I'm ditching it for a t-rex too


James
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
k0tbt
Senior Heliman
Location: Eagan, MN

Is anyone else dissapointed.....?

I'd have to say I'm not.


Karl
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jcrack_corn
Senior Heliman
Location: Lafayette, LA

i'm a nitro guy also and I have to say, after really fiddling with the tail gain and gyro gain pots, I can lift my blade off outside and it will hover in one spot with no hands on the controls (like we like to do with nitro setup).....whats the problem???
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
IFHELI
Senior Heliman
Location: Woonsocket,RI

You have to understand you are flying with a normal piezo gyro, fixed pitch tail w/ it`s own motor plus you can only slightly adjust your pitch curves. It`s not going to fly like a nitro bird w/ heading hold. I can loop, roll, flip, split -s mine through the whole flight and yes it is not pretty but it will do it. It makes me feel like i`m back in the days of mechanical gyros.. I can even hover it inverted as well as doing stall turns. For what it is, I totally enjoy flying it.

Keith
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Error401
Heliman
Location: Roanoke, VA

Personally I'm a tad disappointed with the Blade.

1) weak main rotor esc. Mine will no longer hover reliably after I did some (minor) areobatics. At the hover point now, the LED flashes red/green. This was with the stock radio and the modified 4 in 1 trick that jcrack came up with. It acts like the collective is glitching, but the servos do not move when it happens. I also replaced the main shaft with same symptoms. And the "sticky collective" fix was done pretty much right off the bat.

2) the stock radio tends to bind the swashplate at cyclic extremes. This may have contributed to the aforementioned problem with mine.

3) the main spindle dampers are mushy. Seems to me that the O rings are too soft and I'm sure that that has contributed to alot of folks boom striking. Not to mention that it makes the syslic mushy.


The gyro I could live with. Yes the tail wags, but it is (as stated before) a FP seperate motor tail. But it is flyable. Before mine went south I loved flying it. It fit in a tidy box, flew decently and was a ball for hovering and doing some FFF. Then the esc took a dump and it just pisses me off. I did get to fly another guys Blade who is in the process of learning to fly helis. It was bone stock and for me it was almost a handfull just getting it to hover in one place. It would drift erraticly and was a bear to trim. The rotor speed was real low and adjusting the pitch to get the head speed up resulted in hovering at full collective. I hope the guy sticks with learning helis, but I fear that his Blade's shortcommings/problems will sour him on the subject. As for mine, I'm not planning on replacing my 4 in 1 with another, but instead plan on going seperates on it, or selling it to get more upgrades for my Shogun. At any rate, I will probably not recommend a Blade due to my experiences with it.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
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navymaxxman
Heliman
Location: hansville, wa

im not really sure what to think of my blade yet. this is my first attempt at flying heli's and i can't say it is going well. i am having a lot of the same problems everyone else is mentioning (low head speed, drifting on hover, etc., etc.) if anybody comes up with any ideas on how to get this thing trimmed or if anyone is in the Norfolk VA. area let me know and maybe we can work something out on some lessons.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
VERTICALRC
Heliman
Location: SAN ANGELO, TX

I am a newbee to helis and have about 20 flights on my blade cp with the acro kit ( sticky collective fix done to head and grips). I have progressed from hovering in the living room to figure 8s in 10 to 12 mph winds with gusts to 15. I am working on nose in hovering now and still have the training gear on. I have to say I am very please with the blade cp. It performs way better in the wind than I ever expected. I would like to see the tail control a little stronger, but for what I paid and how much time I have invested, you can not beat this thing. I flew a friends blade stock and it also held a good hover hands off for a couple of seconds.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jcrack_corn
Senior Heliman
Location: Lafayette, LA

for the noobs that have posted, i dont think that you can realistically ***learn*** to fly R/C helicopters with this thing unless you want to invest a LOT of time. These things (even when trimmed out and stable) are all over the place and they gain speed very quickly (albiet it is "scale" speed, ie, this thing going 20mph looks and reacts like a 90 size going 80mpg, lol)....I definitely do not recommend for beginners because I can see how you would think hovering is impossible. nitros are exponentially more predictable and stable and if you DO learn on the blade, you will have no problem hovering a nitro bird. (in fact, a guy in new orleans has done just that.....only flew micros for many months, thought nitro would be too hard, his friend let him hover his R50 and they guy hovered solid first try, lol).


No doubt the tail sucks, but hey, this thing is CHEAP, lol. I kind of like those "near the end of battery" moments when the ESC starts dropping output to the tail....had it whip around comming at me nose in a few times (just reached out and caught it by skids, too easy), lol AWESOME. You cant put a price on that kind of entertainment folks. In fact it is really easy to hover close by and just reach out and grab the skids or boom, for some reason that makes me chuckle.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
antichip2000
Heliman
Location: Spring Hill, Florida

You get what you pay for

I have heard of many people getting exelent service and support along with a decent supply chain of replacement parts(granted getting slim with us newbs chewwing them up) But more than that you are getting something that is not only afordable out of the box, but it it something that I don't have to be super nervous picking up the controller knowing 600 dollars or more is balancing on a greased ball. I doubt there are many parts over 20 bucks on this thing. And I will get good on it but man is it slippery, constant input no relaxing, nice little rush.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Riverman
Senior Heliman
Location: Peace River, Alberta

Hello

Seems to me some of you heading hold equiped nitro guys are a bit spoiled with your $1000+ machines. Helicopters aren't supposed to be stable
Anyone with a little spare cash for spare parts for the Blade CP can learn to fly on this thing.
I think you've got to appoach the tail with a positive attitude. Adjust the gain properly and then fly the tail.
It's intense and sometimes you're constantly working the thing just to maintain a hover. I'm having a blast!

regards
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
zoobie
Senior Heliman
Location: South Africa

I fly a HB 2 and have moved up from a FP. The heli is twitchy but I can get it to hover for an entire lipo with very little drift. I have set it up as well that it will hover hands free, but one or two hard landings and thats gone. Basically I am happy with the little bird and I see it as a transition machine to something more expensive to repair, like a Trex or Raptor. I think it develops good habits and sharpens your reflexes.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
jcrack_corn
Senior Heliman
Location: Lafayette, LA

riverman, lol, maybe i'm biased because i flew my nitro with a rate gyro during the early learning stages....so the blade seems "normal" to me. I do love my HH on my nitro though, one less thing to worry about.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
banjo
Heliman
Location: New England

I guess my expectations were lower than many. I wasn't expecting the same quality and features for $219 that I might expect if I were to spend $1,000 or more.

I got the chance to fly a Raptor last weekend. A guy was interested in my little bird and wanted to give it a try. As I hadn't ever flown a "big" heli I was more than willing to swap. He could not fly the Blade but I did quite well with the Raptor. That heading hold gyro deal is cool. If I were accustomed to HH I don't think I'd like the Blade quite as much.


I would recommend the Blade to beginners but not to experienced flyers.
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
JKos
Elite Veteran
Location: Town of California in the state of Maryland

I'm a bit dissapointed in my Blade. I've gone through 5 sets of blades in 6 attempts of flying it. It is competely unstable and it just doesn't seem to be doing what I tell it to do. And the tail is completely unreliable with random twitches, sometimes up to 90 deg.

I'm a competent pilot on nitro and gas helis. No problem there.

- John
08-10-2005 Over year old.
 
 
MattRandom
Heliman
Location: No where

I'd prefer if it required a bit less attention to the tail but I'm not really complaining for the price. I started my fleet for a mere $220. That is nothing compared to the $800+ it'll take to get #2.

I've attempted to hover indoors three times. Big mistake since my skills would require a huge room which is something my tiny San Francisco apt. doesn't have. Even so, the only damage was a small nick out of a blade tip. I've hovered it outside a couple of times now with the only damage being an unglued tail boom and a couple more blade nicks. I can't complain since the repair bill so far is $0.
08-11-2005 Over year old.
 
 
docprego
Heliman
Location: Henderson, NV

Bought mine used on eBay for $125. After doing the collective fix my only possible complaint was the jittery tail. However I spent an entire pack dialing it in the other day and now I would say I really have no complaints at all.
08-11-2005 Over year old.
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midwestpilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Crystal Lake, IL

nope.....

had some issues with a glitchy 4 in 1...horizon fixed me up and now I am great...also put her on my 9c..much better

In life there is no spacebar!

Rich Erikson AMA 6175
08-11-2005 Over year old.
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Helinutnz
Elite Veteran
Location: below 42 South

Mike I kinda agree with you. I don't think it's the best. Tail doesn't hold worth a damn. Need to but upgrades to fly upside down. And the kicker is you have to buy an expensive battery to get those symmetrical blades to spin fast enough or on full pitch it just bogs. So after three sets of blades, and a tanic lipo I think I'll try a T Rex. On the stock battery the fly time sucks big time. I can do plenty of manouevres like piro flips, death spirals and inverted funnels etc on my Evo but this thing does NOT hover hands off even after all the dicking in the world with the settings. The tail twitches and the 4 in 1 unit has a couple of times spun up uncommanded! (maybe Cause I crashed it)
My wife said AWWWWW....it's so cute. So I had to but one. Now I want a real micro heli with a tail belt and real gyro. It was ok....just not my cup of tea I think.
08-11-2005 Over year old.
 
 
midwestpilot
Elite Veteran
Location: Crystal Lake, IL

again..

This is a low cost heli...not a super performer... I still think of it as an XRB that flies outside. Come on.....$219 with radio!!!

Yep the tail is whippy...live with it or spend some money to stop it.

I am happy to fly around my yard..practice nose in and turns at me...

If you want a mini raptor...go trex...but spend $400 bucks more.

In life there is no spacebar!

Rich Erikson AMA 6175
08-12-2005 Over year old.
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