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e-E-Flite Blade CP CX 400-3D > What to buy ? - Corona or the Blade CP ?

FrostyBeers
Heliman
Location: Ottawa Canada

Hi guys,

I read another thread last night ( 10 pages of reviews from users here ) and all gave great reviews of the Blade CP.

I had my heart set on buying a Corona, but then saw the great reviews of the Blade, and now wonder what is a better heli ?

I can pick up the Blade for $279 in Canada ( damn cheap ), but the Corona would cost me 3x that much.

What would you all suggest ? ... if the Corona is an amazing heli, I would go for that option, and just have to suck up pain of spending the extra $ .....

I just don't know, I have a feeling the Corona must be a better built heli, and I"m pretty sure it's larger, but it is a FIXED Pitch heli, and this kind of takes the fun out of it in a way, as you kind of know you are not flying the way it was meant to be done ( meaning the Colletctiv Pitch way ).

I don't know guys, help me out if you can

07-26-2005 Over year old.

docprego
Heliman
Location: Henderson, NV

First of all both are great helis BUT they are in a completely different league from each other. The Corona is a larger ship than the Blade, the Blade is a micro and the Corona definitely is not. The Corona is a fixed pitch heli and the Blade is a collective pitch heli. Both are very durable in their respective size classes. The Corona's durability is almost legendary and many reports indicate the Blade is quite durable too (have not crashed mine yet to verify this-knock on wood).

Either one will allow you to learn the basics of flight including hovering and some forward flight. BUT the Blade will allow you to progress a bit beyond this as it is collective pitch. HOWEVER the Blade is small and like all micros can be a handful even for an experienced pilot.

My personal opinion is that the Blade is the better option because it is much cheaper, parts are very inexpensive, collective pitch will allow your learning to progress further than fixed pitch, and for me the small size makes it very convenient to fly whenever I choose.

If you do get the Blade make sure you apply the sticky collective fix immediately. With their recent bulletin about this Horizon has basically acknowledged the problem of a sticking collective that many Blade owners experienced, including myself. Lastly put a good set of training gear on the heli immediately, it will save you LOTS of blades.

Hope that helps,
docprego

07-26-2005 Over year old.

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Squirrlybird
Veteran
Location: Suffolk, Va US

Get the Blade.

If you still want a corona later then you haven't lost much $$$ on the blade. Though chances are that you will probably never go fixed pitch once you master the blade. I guess that is the response that you would expect from a blade forum though. We are proud!!!

If you can fly the cheap blade, then you can fly a larger more expensive heli with ease.

07-26-2005 Over year old.

Foz
Senior Heliman
Location: Connecticut

I know this is a blade forum, but have you considered a trex? It would be a good compromise between the two. It is collective pitch, its size is right between a blade and corona, it has a belt driven tail, will handle wind better than blade, and is pretty cheap to purchase and repair.

foz

07-27-2005 Over year old.

tienman04
Senior Heliman
Location: Silver sping. MD

well, it depends on how much are you willing to spend. WIth the blade cp, its 220 rtf. With the T-rex is about 600 give or take and depending how good you want your radio to be and such. Dont get me wrong, the T-rex is a great heli probally the best micro to get if you have the money. But if you want to just spend around 250 (including aerobatic kit) you should get the blade. You can move on to the T-rex onces you get this thing flying and you will find out that the T-rex will probally be easier to fly since its a little bigger than the blade cp and you have the option of a HH.

07-27-2005 Over year old.

Foz
Senior Heliman
Location: Connecticut

tienman,
I do agree with you, if you are on a tight budget, the blade would be the way to go. I learned to fly on the various "cousins" of the blade and you are correct, the rex was much easier to fly. However, he said that he was willing to fork over the money for a corona which would set him back about as much as a trex. If he has the money I would recomend the trex or corona if he is new to helis.

foz

07-27-2005 Over year old.

tienman04
Senior Heliman
Location: Silver sping. MD

then i guess between the T-rex and the corona i would have to go with the T-rex. Its a very stable heli and pretty cheap to get parts for. And its collective pitch(easier to fly in my opinion). This is probally the closest heli you will get to a nitro flying wise.

07-27-2005 Over year old.

FrostyBeers
Heliman
Location: Ottawa Canada

Hi guys,

thanks for the info and suggesting the T-Rex.

I'm assuming you are talking about the T-Rex 450 ?

Funny thing is that I just learned about that heli a few days ago... I had no clue it even existed.

Now from what I read on the helihobby website, it's a belt driven heli.... is this a good thing ? ... sounds like it's the only heli that is belt driven.... hmm.

Also, the T-Rex is indeed larger than the Blade CP ? but smaller than the Corona ?

I had my heart set on the Corona, but it's not a collective pitch heli, and 2 guys that only fly helis in my local club told me to stay away from fix pitched helis.

edit: A friend also told me that the Blade uses 2 motors... one motor for the tail rotor -- is this true ?

07-27-2005 Over year old.

docprego
Heliman
Location: Henderson, NV

The T-rex is smaller than the Corona but larger than the Blade, it's kind of in the middle of the 2.

The Blade does indeed use separate motors for the mian rotor and tail rotor.

I do not profess to be expert on belt drive vs motor driven tail rotors but I will say I really like the idea of 1 motor which powers both rotors. If there is anything I find difficult about my Blade it is the tail rotor. Many people say the T-rex tail is rock solid so the belt drive must be a good thing. About 8 years ago I had a larger 30 size nitro heli with a belt drive tail and it was great.

docprego

07-28-2005 Over year old.

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magicmalik
Senior Heliman
Location: Bayonne, NJ

Ok, i have 2 trex's ( the first original v1 and the new 450xl cde which is ccpm).. i also have a shogun and today i just flew the blade inside a hobby shop I went to. The blade is smaller compared to the trex and much lighter. It is much cheaper as well to get flight ready being it is a rtf model. I have to say i was impressed in the blade as I thought it would be very twitchy being so light and small. I used to have an areohawk micro heli which was similar in size and used 2 motors (one for main blades, one for tail) but it was fixed pitch and i hated the heli. It never flew at all.. only went up, hovered a few seconds and then spun down. The blade was nothing like that at all.. a little twitchy at first but I got used to it in about a minute and then had it in a steady hover that i could hold for a while. So the blade is a great heli and for the price, its awesome. Compared to my trex.. well idk. The trex is pretty durable. The blade is durable too but not as durable as the trex. The trex is bigger and can be equipped with alot of different power combos so its very capable of every type of flight. It can be set up to be extremely stable or a full out 3d machine. It can also handle wind which the blade cant do. Im not sure how well the tail motors hold up on the blade as well as i know alot of motor driven tail heli's had tail burn out problems. The trex being a belt driven tail is very reliable and has no problems. Belt is truely the ultimate way to go. My shogun was shaft driven and i converted it to belt for the reliability and my raptor is belt driven and all have no problems at all. So dont worry at all about a heli being belt driven. If you want a heli to learn on and dont have too much money to spend and have a nice sized indoor place to learn (or an outdoor field with very little to no wind).. then the blade is a great way to go. If you have some extra money to spend and want a great heli that you can learn on and then use the same heli to learn more advanced things on, go with the trex. Also keep in mind tho that the trex takes more time to get flight ready as you have to build it, buy electronics seperatly, and more time to tweak and set it up. So if you dont have the time or the patience and just want to learn basic heli flight, then the blade will do fine. Sorry if my post was a little jumpy from issue to issue but its gettin sorta late..haha. If you have any questions, feel free to PM me

07-28-2005 Over year old.

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Plasma
Heliman
Location: Ottawa, ON

Hi Frosty,

Nice to see some more Micro Heli interest in Ottawa

Couple other points might be worth noting. I know there's
a growing number of the Blades in Ottawa and I know the
local hobby stores are already stocking the parts
for them too. Not to much support locally I believe for the
Trex or the Corona for parts, which can be handy when
mishaps occur

Also depends on how big a flying space you have.
With the blade you could even do indoor flying this winter
locally at the RA centre or Thunderdome. The Corona
is probably a little big for that

Having a great time
with my Blade CP. If your in the westend and end up
getting the Blade CP, I'd be happy to give you a hand
if you need one. I also own a Shogun which is also a
great Heli but I'll be practising my flips and rolls on the
Blade first

Just not quite there yet

Scott

07-30-2005 Over year old.

FrostyBeers
Heliman
Location: Ottawa Canada

Hi guys, and thanks for the info. Hi Scott, - geez are you a member of the Stetson club ? ... perhaps we've met ? hmm...

Ah good news on the parts etc for the Blade... good to know I can get that stuff locally, thanks for the info.

PS. - I'm a bit worried about buying a heli with 2 motors.... a friend of mine on one of the RC groups told me to steer clear of any heli with 2 motors....

what do ye all say ? ... agree or disagree ?

If I go with the Corona, I need to buy a LOT of stuff :

- radio
- gyro
- esc and motor are included in some packages.

- that's a LOT of money, - I'll prob be looking at $1,000

I want to just hover a heli, and move it around a bit, for now I could be amused with just lifting off of my backyard deck a few feet and moving around.... for simple stuff like that I wonder about the Blade... good choice perhaps.....

Blade in Canada is only $279 - everything included.....

but... but... I worry now about 2 motors on the Blade....

any help, your thoughts on that very much appreciated.

08-08-2005 Over year old.

Riverman
Senior Heliman
Location: Peace River, Alberta

Frostybeers

The tail motor is deffinately a weak point on the blade, but it's cheap and easy to fix. Fly it backwards into a wall for example, and you'll be out a $15 tail motor and maybe some blades. Compare that to the cost of repairs on a belt or shaft driven tail rotor with variable pitch and I think you'll find the simplistic design of the blade CP appealing.
Of course I realize the idea is not to crash.... If you had a larger heli with heading hold you may not crash as often but the blade is more satisfying in some ways if you can get used to flying the tail.
Anyway, I say give it a try. It's been well worth it for me. I'm curious how it will hold up flying outdoors in the winter. Time will tell.

08-09-2005 Over year old.

FrostyBeers
Heliman
Location: Ottawa Canada

Hi RiverMan,

1. - what is "head hold" ? - I've seen this written before but don't
have a clue what it is.

2. What heli do you own ?

3. Thanks for the info

08-09-2005 Over year old.

Riverman
Senior Heliman
Location: Peace River, Alberta

Frostybeers

Heading hold is a term referring to a type of gyro that controls the tail rotor in machines a lot more sophisticated than the Blade CP. The Blade CP uses a relatively primative piezo gyro. I've been told heading hold gyros hold the tail rock steady. The tail won't move unless commanded to. I'm sure others in this forumn could provide much more input as I've never flown one myself. I'm still new to this fling wing thing.
As for what heli I own, all I've got is a Blade CP. Loving every minute of it.

Regards

08-10-2005 Over year old.

FrostyBeers
Heliman
Location: Ottawa Canada

Good morning Riverman,

wow, I didn't know that, and now I do, thanks much for the edu-ma-cation

Very good to know, thanks for helping me out.

08-10-2005 Over year old.

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