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Safety - RC Helis are not toys > Saw something REALLY UGLY at the flying field today
 
 
440GTX
Veteran
Location: Calgary, Canada

A guy was taxing his 1/4 scale Laser onto the runway. Maiden Voyage
He slowly applied throttle and the plane slowly lifted. It quickly snaped to the right heading for the pits. What does the bozo do. MORE up elevator full throttle
The laser plows into the top of a 5' chain link fence, bounced into the pit area , crashed into
an 72 " extra completly destroying it . The engine came to rest 10 ' from a picnic table with 2 kids under it.
The guy last week said heli's should not fly at our field because they are unsafe.
08-05-2002 11:55 PM
 
 


Location:

I can imagine seeing that happen easily. I saw a guy at our field bounce his plane off the pit table and it literally slammed into the back of his OWN truck! Then one time the guy that owns the local hobby shop was taxiing in the pits and somehow bumped his stick to full throttle. It ate up 3 planes sitting in the pits and then hit the back of a car.

>>Post edited by Father Sarducci, so as to not insult or demoralize any individuals.<<


Oh well, thank God nobody was hurt. Hopefully, the pilots ego was hurt.

Thanks for sharing that story.
08-06-2002 12:12 AM
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cubeleo
Heliman
Location: San Jose, CA

I'm a plank flyer since 1990 and a rotary flyer for 5 years. There are many more rotary fliers than plank fliers that make me want to dive under a table and cover my head at my field. I guess the heli analog to "planker solos, then thinks he can fly anything" is "heli pilot figures out how to hover and how to go in a straight line back and forth, then starts repeatedly doing twitchy full collective+elevator loops on each pass 10 feet off the deck right in front of the pits (and the hapless safety officers)". I guess I just wanted to say: In general, generalizing sucks. At least be fair about it
08-06-2002 12:29 AM
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Michigan PI
Senior Heliman
Location: St Clair Shores, MI

All generalizations are false!
08-06-2002 02:34 AM
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Conrod
Veteran
Location: Melbourne, Florida

Classic

The heli pilot of course...somehow it was his fault! LOL
08-06-2002 02:35 AM
 
 
440GTX
Veteran
Location: Calgary, Canada

Plane

The Guy who Crashed his laser into the Parked Extra paid at the field for an unknown amout of cash. Apparently It was the Price of a New Extra Kit and building materials. Lucky him Still you cannot recover the construction hours..
3 years ago a guy shot down my 5th sacle P51 . The guy saw my pin and ASSUMED if he did not put his antenna up he could turn on his radio and tune his engine
Before I can back with a bag of balsa sticks, he had a blank check for me ( Lucky me )
Hmmm. Very nice Club Members
Good one Conrod
It was my fault , I was Watching
08-06-2002 02:43 AM
 
 
Secret Squirrel
Key Veteran
Location: New Zealander living in Melbourne, Australia

hahahahaha

That was good

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Simon Lockington
08-06-2002 02:45 AM
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Cubeleo, I edited by post so you won't be offended. Okay?

Also, I have been flying r/c since 1967, but I guess even having that much experience doesn't give me the right to state my opinion.

Sorry you was offended.
08-06-2002 02:50 AM
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Avropilot
Senior Heliman
Location: Nashville, Tennessee

Check these out.
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http://www.wouterverscheure.com/airplaneincar2.jpg
http://www.wouterverscheure.com/airplaneincar3.jpg
08-06-2002 03:45 AM
 
 
MobileRaptor
Veteran
Location: Orange, Texas

Guns are Safe.
RC Airplane are Safe.
RC Helicopter are Safe.

It's the people controlling them you have to watch out for.
08-06-2002 04:38 AM
 
 
Maxx
Key Veteran
Location: Shreveport Louisana

I ceased worrying about safety when the AMA started simultaneously upping the speed limit a model plane can fly at, upping the weight that is "legal" until 30-50 lbs. is the norm and, though you cannot carry explosives or powered projectiles on your model airplane, you can pump it full of Kerosene and go fly 200mph! Of course; AMA also started upping the amount of insurance they provide around the same time. Helicopters may not be the safest RC models available to the public but I believe they are far from the most dangerous!. Chris
08-06-2002 03:33 PM
 
 
NEM3
Veteran
Location: New Lenox, Il

To add to your guys storied, I went out to a local plane feild this past weekend because I had talked to one of the guys and he asked for me to come out.

Well I get there just to find out that there have some model air show and only military planes can fly until 3pm. Well it was only 12 so I wasn't going to sit there for 3 hours to have to deal with a bunch of other people. So as I am walking back I see the clown that was out flying take his plane 15 feet up right over the pits. By the time I had made it to the car he had made another round around the feild and was now heading over the parking lot towards the pits. On the next round he came in to do what looked like a touch and go but instead kind of just dragged the tail along behind the plane with a low throttle, right along the pits again.

I will say it again and again until I am blue in the face. Its not the aircraft that makes a particular hobby dangerous. Its always always the pilot. If I would have tried hovering over the pits like this guy was doing I would have most certainly gotten kicked out. Would I ever think of doing so, NO. I think its absolutely not needed. Spectators enjoy the hobby much more when the aircraft is at a respectable distance and they feel safe. But flying over there heads and scaring the crap out of them does nothing for the hobby.

Another thing I would like to point out about this feild is the plankers attitudes. And its not just toward the heli guys, towards there own bretheren. A guy I work with said he had went out there when he was learning to fly and got nothing but an attitude from every planker out there. These guys have to be the snobbiest SOB's I have every met and I don't plan on going back to that feild very soon if ever.
08-06-2002 04:15 PM
 
 
Wild Turkey
Senior Heliman
Location: Stewartsville, NJ

Regardless - Helis or planes - thank god no one was hurt - especially the children.

Man, I dont want to get on a soap box - but this is a reminder of how careful we all need to be with this hobby.

Wild Turkey
08-06-2002 04:57 PM
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The_Dave
Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada

Stand Tall, Sarducci!

FS,

I did not see what was edited out but I can guess. I am also willing to bet it was right on the money!

At my flying field (Bennett Field, home of the TOC) we have some of the best pilots in the world flying each weekend. In the ranks of plankers we have two TOC contenders that put up many flights a weekend with 44% + airplanes, top flyers.... never an issue.

We also have a large group of plankers that are more than a little dangerous. Most of the helicopter group will not even leave the sun shelter when they are flying. I have personally been nearly hit in the head twice by these incompetent boobs. These are the same yahoo's that constantly complain that the helos are flying death traps.

Just goes to show you that any idiot can bolt an engine to a chunk of wood and get it airborne.

Mark McAlpine - 2005 - We will never forget.
08-06-2002 05:11 PM
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gjestico
Senior Heliman
Location: Vancouver, B.C.

More info

Well this morning I get an Email from a good friend I used to fly with
when I lived in Calgary, Turns out it was his plane that got hit!!!.

The out of control plane was owned by a "Veteran flyer" (this guy has strong opinions on everything). It was a 3W 1/4 scale cap with a Moki 1.8.
My buddy Derek was asked to hold the tail of the plane lined up on the runway while the owner revved it up to full throttle, When the owner gave the sign Derek released it . After a 15ft roll it took off immediatly into the air and started axial rolling, Headed for the safety fence right towards two kids playing behind it, bounces off that and plows right into Dereks' 6 flights old Hanger9 Edge 540.
Derek says had the safety chain link fence not been there if would have hit the kids for sure.
Derek did get reimbursed for the cost of the kit, but this was sad because he had just got into flying after selling all his stuff last year after getting bummed out about the sport. Now he may leave for good.
To top it all off, The "Veteran flyer" has announced he is buying a 33% extra with DA100 gas twin ready to fly. 10 Hp and 26" prop. Everybody look out!!.
The only small upside to this he had been considering turning to the "Dark Side" and get a heli like I did two months ago. I was a planker for 10 yrs. I think he will turn now. There is a heli only field in Calgary.MWOOOAAAHAAAAA!

Greg
08-06-2002 08:12 PM
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Mopzilla
Veteran
Location: Cupertino, CA USA

Quote 
Saw something REALLY UGLY at the flying field today

just before i clicked on the topic, I thought you were going to say you saw a plane....

no seriously, that is pretty bad for the other innocent guy.

And on safety, I don't think helicopters really are that dangerous if the pilot knows what he's doing. A beginner with a plane is just as dangerous as a beginner with a helicopter. Actually, maybe not, the heli can just be grounded by quickly moving the stick down, but planes must keep moving...

Are there any stories of a helicopter crashing, causing damage to other helicopters? Or is it just planes that fly over pits and all?

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Ever stop to think, and forget to start again?
08-06-2002 09:49 PM
 
 
slant911
Veteran
Location: Las Vegas, NV. Hirobo, Magnum Fuels, MAH

Certainly there must be stories of helis going out of control, but, my opinion overall is that helicopter pilots as a group are more safety conscious. Because things can fly off and go crazy we take many more precautions than plankers. I used to be one and know that there were many times I'd fly a plane and not give it a second thought that the engine wasn't running quite right or that elevator surface looked a little loose. NEVER with helis. If it isn't perfect it's not going up. Attitude is completely different.

I have got to agree with Dave (what's up Dave). Many of the "pilots" at Sam Boyd can't hit the 1200 foot long runway to save their lives. I crashed a heli a while back because one of these guys flew right at me and I looked away for 2 seconds to see which way I had to run in order not to get pegged and in went my heli. I seriously considered putting my foot right through the middle of this aholes plane, but, other cooler heads talked me out of it.

As with most things in life the difference is ATTITUDE..


John B. McNamara
08-06-2002 11:12 PM
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butch r
Senior Heliman
Location: Alma, Kansas

It's unfortunate that such risks by pilots are taken. I believe that plankers feel that thier planes behavior is somewhat predictable by someone who is paying attention to it's flight as oppossed to heli's. Not defending them but I believe that the opinionated member always ful of advice that crashes his plane and causes damaged is applying more guilt on himself than the victim than those that wish to see his demise (considering that he is willing to compensate for his errors). If not than piss on him! On the other hand, heli pilots are like punk rockers attending church. That just seem to be out off place. But remember that what is on the outside is not what is on the inside. Yes both heli and planks I'm involved with and yes I've been chastised at the field from plankers with a plank in hand. I guess it was because I was younger than them but that was over twenty years ago. Wanna make a difference than try to help them (diehard plankers) understand, not use the moment to belittle their ego.
08-06-2002 11:30 PM
 
 
TeleHeli
Heliman
Location: Jacksonville Fl

Here's something I have thought about. It sounds fair that you pay for any damage you cause if you crash into someones plane. But, what about the guy that brings a turbine heli, or a $10,000.00 F-18. That person may be willing to risk that kind of money, but then should everyone at the field now be put in the position to pay for that heli/ plane should they accidentaly midair with it. Why should eveyone be forced to take that risk just because some wealthy man feels that money is no object?

thoughts?
08-07-2002 01:55 AM
 
 
Guardian
Senior Heliman
Location: Sarasota, Florida

to many idiots in the world....

Personally I believe there are to many idiot in this world and at OUR flying fields.Don't hate me for what I am about to say, but truth of the matter is weither your a heli flyer ( whoop whoop ) or a planker, I switched to heli's , a r/c controller in the wrong hands can be a deadly weapon , almost nobody at the flying field ( s ) will give 2****z about who signs up and flies, personally I think you should show and prove your flying ability in order to fly PERIOD !! that way we won't have kamakazee heli's or suicide'n chunks of wood.

My 2cents.
08-07-2002 02:27 AM
 
 
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