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Ron’s HeliProz South . Century Helicopter . MTA Hobbies

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Century Hawk - Falcon - Raven - Predator > NEW! Hawk Pro
 
 
DMehalko(DM)
Senior Heliman
Location: Colorado

So are they shipping yet? Has anyone got their hawk pro yet????

Trex450se, Trex600CF, HyperRaptor 90 3d
04-07-2005 Over year old.
 
 
HeliNick
Senior Heliman
Location: Bay Area, CA

OS .37 SZ-H

I was wondering if anyone has tried an OS .37 SZ-H on the Hawk Pro?

Also, what is the flying time with a .32 and the .37 engines?


Nick
04-07-2005 Over year old.
 
 
Scooterpilot
Key Veteran
Location: Southern, California

OS 37

I've puchased an OS 37 and a Hatori SAB 6RS for the motor. From what I've read, the Hatori or the muffler used on Toki 40 work very well with OS 37.

As for how does the motor perform with the HAWK, I don't know, the Hawk Pro will be my first Century product. After I get the kit and fly it I'll know more about the OS 37 with the Hatori muffler.

Regards,

Two N-9's,600N, MagnumFuel Rep, YS Rep
04-07-2005 Over year old.
 
 
oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

I have the OS37 in a Raven 30 - about the same weight as the Hawk Pro) and it is a real little tiger - the hottest 30 heli I have ever owned or flown (And I have done so with most out there). In fact if you check the threads on here about the over-power of the OS50 hyper, it is a similar thing here - believe me- power to spare.

I am using a K&S 1363 tuned muffler - very quiet and very powerful - a great combo. In fact I have beat a few 50 machines at our field in vertical drags with it!

Phil
04-07-2005 Over year old.
 
 
HeliNick
Senior Heliman
Location: Bay Area, CA

OS 37

Scooterpilot good luck with your Hawk Pro and do tell us how you like this setup and who much flying timing you get.

Phil for a while I was thinking getting a Raven 30 too but I change my mind and I will buy the Halk Pro for better and cheaper crushability. I am flying a Hummingbird CP for more than 6 months (outdoors) and I can easily hover, some forward flying etc. I understand the different linkage and mechanical configuration of eCCPM vs mCCPM but I have not flown any mCCPM and I don’t know the difference in stick response. Should I get the Halk Pro or the Raven 30 with the eCCPM? Also, how long do you fly with a tank?

Nick
04-07-2005 Over year old.
 
 
oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Nick,

They will both do you well. here are some of the differences to consider and the pros & cons of each.

The Raven has the better head as it has the same head as the Raven 50 and the Falcon 50 SEV2
- This means it has a machined head block rather then the GRP unit of the Hawk.
- This means it has the 6mm feathering spindle of the Raven 50 & Falcon rather then the 5mm unit of the Hawk Pro.
- This means it also has thrust bearings like the Raven 50 & Falcon

But then the Hawk Pro will have bearings in the bell mixers and seesaw arms while the Raven 30 has bushings (acrually it does not cost to much to change the Raven 30 to bearings here. Of Note is that this is also where the Raven 30 differs from the Rav50 & Falcon, as both of the later are equipped with bearings everywhere.

Lower down the mainmast you will find the Hawk Pro with the same proven swashplate that has a machined metal inner star & a GRP outer star, while the Rav30 will have the better full metal unit.

They both have the same metal lower frame and similar metal sided servo/radio tray units.

Going rearward, the Hawk Pro has the advantage. Here again the Rav30 differs from the Rav50 & Falcon that feature the stainless steel torque tube drive system. The Rav30 has the same wire-in-tube tail drive system found in the Hawk Sport while the new HAWK Pro has the stainless steel torque tube system!!!???

But at the tail, the Rav30 has the same superb tail rotor found on the Rav50, Falcon and Predator that features super precision because both blade grips are supported by two radial bearings and a thrust bearing.

As for the control system, the eCCPM system of the Rav 30 is far as it is much quicker in response time, has far less collective to cyclic interaction then the mCCPM system of the Hawk Pro, and can be set up to deliver about a degree more cyclic pitch wich with a powerful motor like the OS37 is a real benefit when riding hard.

Adding a few bearings to the Rav 50 and the torque tube drive system wil turn it into a mini-50/60. It would take a lot more then that to accomplish the same with the Hawk Pro.

But that is propably why the Rav 30 is more expensive

Phil
04-08-2005 Over year old.
 
 
DMehalko(DM)
Senior Heliman
Location: Colorado

So are they shipping yet? Has anyone got their hawk pro yet????

Trex450se, Trex600CF, HyperRaptor 90 3d
04-08-2005 Over year old.
 
 
perfesser zero
Key Veteran
Location: Dublin, VA., USA

Speaking of rotor heads...

Oldfart,

What's the difference in the two different heads Century makes for the 30/50's? I noticed that one has a plastic piece on the bottom of it while the other is all metal. Part numbers are HI3160C - Plastic lower piece and HI3160D - metal lower piece/with pins already pressed in. Both parts look nearly identical. They are listed as parts for the Raven/Falcon. Could these also be used on the Hawk?


Later...

Tiger 50 - OS 50SX-H
Hawk Sport - OS 37SZ-H
Raptor 30 - OS 37SZ-H
JR 10X/R950S
04-08-2005 Over year old.
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oldfart
Elite Veteran
Location: Vancouver, Canada

Glad you asked that, as a short time ago one of our Team Century Canada members ordered one of the H13060D head blocks for his Raven 50 as he had seen it on their web site. (Following the Century tradition, it seems the foreign distributors, like the consumers have to discover new product by monitoring their web site. We are not always privileged enough to be given advanced information.)

Consequently I ordered some, and have just finished examining and testing one.

The HI3060C is the original machined head block of the Falcon SE/V2 and the Raven 30/50's, with a plastic washout pin guide molded arround it. This guide also featured two 3mm threaded holes 180 degrees apart into which one would insert 3mm grub screws to insure the head block could not rock. This method did the job very well, but as the grub screws where not 90 degrees to the jesus bolt, the forces where not absorbed equally around the hub's diameter.

The new H13060D unit is now more like that of the Predator, which has a machined guide system at the bottom that is better at securing a tight fit of the lower part of the hub to the mainshaft.

Way to go Century!

Phil Noel
Leisure-tech Products
Canada
04-08-2005 Over year old.
 
 
DMehalko(DM)
Senior Heliman
Location: Colorado

Talked to century not to lang ago and they will be shipping this week!!!

Yea! I will only get the heli kit for now, but here is what my set-up is planning on being, let me know what you think:

Hawk Pro
O.S .37 /w century torpedo muffler
JR500T (HS-525bb on the tail
HS-475bb's for the mecanical mixing
HS-425 for the throttle
TT550mm carbon blades
Rotortech 85mm carbon tail blades (95mm to big for .30's right?)

And hopefully i can get the hawk pro up by early may, depending on century's shipment

Trex450se, Trex600CF, HyperRaptor 90 3d
04-12-2005 Over year old.
 
 
perfesser zero
Key Veteran
Location: Dublin, VA., USA

Shipping...

Hurray! I hope this is not just more smoke. I was getting to the point I was going with anything within reason (Raptor?). I'll hang on for a few more days to see what happens. Did Century say how many are going out at first. I'm on the list for one, but I don't know if they are going by first on the list or at random. This is certainly encouraging news though.

Later...

Tiger 50 - OS 50SX-H
Hawk Sport - OS 37SZ-H
Raptor 30 - OS 37SZ-H
JR 10X/R950S
04-12-2005 Over year old.
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DMehalko(DM)
Senior Heliman
Location: Colorado

He didnt say, he said they had a whole bunch of them needing manuals, im not sure or not if the first batch is all reserved or not, hopefully not, cuz im not on any list, i was just planning to call on friday and order one up.

Trex450se, Trex600CF, HyperRaptor 90 3d
04-12-2005 Over year old.
 
 
rcsoar4fun
Veteran
Location: Corpus Christi, TX

How much can there be in the manual, I wish they would send them out so we can see what the kits like.

Kristopher

Vote smart, vote RP!
04-14-2005 Over year old.
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perfesser zero
Key Veteran
Location: Dublin, VA., USA

FWIW...

From Century today...


"Hello Scott,
We have Hawk Pro in stock. We are inspecting the kits and putting
the finishing touches on the manual. We will begin shipping them next week.
Thank you for choosing Century Helicoter Products,
-Red Nylander"

Later...

Tiger 50 - OS 50SX-H
Hawk Sport - OS 37SZ-H
Raptor 30 - OS 37SZ-H
JR 10X/R950S
04-14-2005 Over year old.
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DMehalko(DM)
Senior Heliman
Location: Colorado

LOL, thats what i got last week ^^^^^

Trex450se, Trex600CF, HyperRaptor 90 3d
04-15-2005 Over year old.
 
 
AGRAV8
rrProfessor
Location: Mosquito Coast......Houston Texas

I'll add fuel to the fire......

I can ASSURE you that a Hawk Pro production model WILL be making a debut at the Mayday FF event May 6-8. No smoke, no mirrors. Stock configuration along with the bundled Toki .40 engine and its' supplied muffler. Here is how I will set it up.

Stock kit, no mechanical upgrades or part swaps. Just like you will get yours.
Toki .40 engine
Futaba 127DF FM RX. I'll have PCM RX on standby in case I feel it is required.
JR 4131 servo's on cyclic and collective. They are used ones I have pulled from a different helicopter.
Futaba 401/9254 tail gyro
Futaba 9001 or 148 or SOMETHING like that for throttle.
Stock wood blades, stock tail blades.
No governor.
7.4V Li-Ion 2200MaH with 5.4V MPI regulator

I use 30% Magnum heli fuel in my other glow machines. That is what I intend to run in this engine. I do have other blends and % nitro if that is not what it prefers.

I MAY shoot a quick buildup video of it. I have a prior video project that needs to be completed the 1st week of May as well. We will see.

AS some of you are aware, I have been known to write a buildup thread on a new design of helicopter. Again, time constraints may keep that from happening until after the FF event, but I'll do all I can for ya.

Manual is very close to finished. That is the final item to address before shipment.

This is going to be a "quick kill" buildup, but it will also give me some insight that may be helpful to you guys when you get yours (and, to be honest...if I SLEEP, you'll get yours built before I do )

Next week WILL be busy for ALOT of us.

James
04-15-2005 Over year old.
 
 
perfesser zero
Key Veteran
Location: Dublin, VA., USA

same line, different caller...

DMehalko,

I'm sure that's a standard line they feed everyone until it's out the door.

Later...

Tiger 50 - OS 50SX-H
Hawk Sport - OS 37SZ-H
Raptor 30 - OS 37SZ-H
JR 10X/R950S
04-15-2005 Over year old.
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Heli-NuBee
Senior Heliman
Location: Fresno, CA

FRM FunFly

Will a new Hawk Pro be shown and demonstrated at the FRM Fun Fly scheduled for April 29 thru May 2? The information for this funfly indicates Century will be present at the meet and the CD for the meet is also a Century Rep. I very much wanted to get my own Pro before this meet but unless I can get one before the end of next week, it would not be in time to fly in the April 29th FunFly.,

Heli-NuBee
04-17-2005 Over year old.
 
 
corey11
Elite Veteran
Location: Bay Area, California

The Fun fly your talking about is 29 through the 1st. All i say is lets just wait and see when it comes out, cause when it does, im sure everyone will be happy with their kits
04-17-2005 Over year old.
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bellecrank
Veteran
Location: Canada

manuals

Who is doing the manuals now? I understand that Andrew, their manual guru for many years, no longer works for them, and oldfart, who used to do a fair bit of editing of their manuals, is no longer tripping down to CA to edit or modify any of them, so it may take longer then before. (It already has been an extra two weeks!).

I am glad I convinced two flying buddies back in March to get the Sport instead of waiting. Now they are already well into FFF and have had the pleasure of six weeks of perma-grin.
04-18-2005 Over year old.
 
 
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