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HIROBO X-spec - Freya - Sceadu - Shuttle > Sceadu 50 Mini Review
 
 
Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Hi All,
Thought you might be interested in the Sceadu 50. First let me say I'm not an expert. I am just a regular guy who likes his machines and enjoys flying.

The Kit was purchased through CyberHeli for $399 + $50 for Shipping. The box is full of pictures and little details. The instructions are bi-lingual and included a suplemental sheet for taking care of the minor part number changes. There was also some rod length changes for the differences between the 30 and the 50.

Assembly was straight forward. The use of thread lock compound is all over the instructions. Assembly is very similar to the Freya and the same basic hardware is used in the same places. For instance the same bolt and non lock nuts are used to secure the frame halves together. The hardware is all of the highest quality, the best I've seen in any 30-50 kit.

Flight preformance has yet to be decided upon. I have had to find a problem with my gyro. I had a twitching problem I couldn't fix. Well 15 flights later I found a fix. It was to mount the Gyro on the aft mount. Funny the instructions tell me to do this but I tried mounting it on the frount just like my Freya. No dice, the aft mount is the way to go. Now that I got that figured out. Tomarrow I'll take it into Forward flight and more.

Things I don't like:
The canopy mounts, the rubber grommets are a pain in the tail to keep in. I have used CA to glue the grommets down and they have pulled loose from the glue. My fix would be to: change the mounting system to that of the Freya or make the end part of the mount smaller so the grommet doesn't catch on them so bad.

The OS 50 requires a fuel tank that can keep up with it's consumption. I bet all Sceadu 50 owners install a header tank just to improve flight time. The main fuel tank needs to be increased in size. Also care needs to be taken when routing the fuel line. It has a tendency to go right up under the fan. Chaffing could be a problem. One other problem is that the clunk is to heavy for the provided fuel line. I also trimmed off about 10 MM to help with the clunk dropping correctly.

The landing skids are typical Hirobo. Be care full not to over tighten the set screws in them, they are easily stripped.

Things that would be nice:
a Split main gear, more adjustable links and better tail control shaft guides.

All and all the quality of the kit is very good. I expect that tommarow Forward Flight will be good. I will add to this post as time permits.

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The non-locking nuts for me aren’t a big issue. Hirobo used the same stuff on my Freya and now it's in the Sceadu. They work but I just insure them with some blue locktite. Remember this is only the frame that they are holding together. If you take the correct precautions this isn't an issue either. I only mentioned it because for others on the Freya it was something they cared about.
The level of quality is apparent when I compare this machine to the other 30's and 50's I have built or looked at. I have owned a Raptor, a Shuttle SXX and a Concept. I have seen up close and personal a Mosquito, Conquest, GPH and an Ergo. The Sceadu is a very well thought out machine and will fit into my fleet nicely.

I have now FFF and looped this machine and it does well. The only reason I'm still not out flying is winds are up to 25 - 30 MPH. I don't enjoy flying in those conditions. However the Sceadu was very solid and was able to accelerate into the wind. I do have some tweaking to do on the curves but first impressions on FF are good.

Ken B
07-31-2001 Over year old.
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Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Something else.

I forgot to mention that the Sceadu requires a start shaft with a one way bearing in it.

I checked to see if the Freya cup would work and it's to large at the shaft.

Here's one issue I have with Hirobo. I have 3 different start shafts to get my 3 Hirobo products going. Kinda wishing I went with a system like Pegae.

Ken B
07-31-2001 Over year old.
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Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

Wrecked my Sceadu 50

Not a total. but damaged...

There I was: Flying along trimming out the radio settings. Got the Piro rates just about the way I like. Swinging out to do a 540. POOF the engine died. OK, auto her down... Oh Crap, is that a Fence! BIFF. Landed it square on top of a fence (barrebed wire type).

Busted the Frame, puntured the fuel tank, tweaked the flybar, gauged the crap out of the blades, busted the washout rods, and lost a linkage. I might have tweaked the blade bar too.

Let it be known, I wrecked my 16 flight sceadu. :-) Now who's selling parts for these yet??? OY!

For what it's worth I'm not real happy with the OS 50. It's been a pain in the tail for me. The Sceadu was just starting to come alive too.

Ken B
08-03-2001 Over year old.
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CCoker
Senior Heliman
Location: Atlanta,GA

Crash.

Sorry to hear about your crash, I shed a tear everytime a heli go's down.
08-03-2001 Over year old.
 
 
Mark Ryder
Administrator
Location: Encino, CA

Sorry about the crash. What is the flight time with the 50? Do you think the Sceadu would be under powered gong with a 30 engine?

I wonder about 50 size helis. So close to 60?
08-03-2001 Over year old.
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Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

The flight time per tank comes in at about 9 minutes

The 50 is in my opinion slightly more than this machine can handle. I have stated some where else that a set off 600mm blades should calm it right down. The stock 570's are overspeed city for the 50.

The crash is minor for the most part. I will have it flying when parts are availible.

Ken B
08-03-2001 Over year old.
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Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

It's flying again

I got it all back together last week. I ordered the parts from CyberHeli and had them a week after the incident. I did however order a different set of main blades. I installed NHP 600s.

Now I have had nothing but trouble with the OS 50. No fault of the machine just the engine. Well I think I have the 50 running ok now.

On to the latest on the review:

I now have 23 flights on the machine, here's my some more findings.
1. It flips, rolls, twist turns like it's possessed. I have tons of cyclic authority. Granted I am now running it without the brass weights in the paddles.

2. The odd shape of the tail blades has created an interesting situation. Meaning, that when I give it yaw input it's a tap slow to go, then it will accelerate into blinding fast piros. So fast I can't even count. I just wanted to see the max piro rate and it's FAST. Stopping from a standard piro also takes about 1/4 to 1/2 a rotation. For me this isn't acceptable. I am going to be changing out the tail blades to see if I can get better response.

3. Some problems I have discovered. The bolts that hold the tail boom supports had begun to chaff into the tank. The bolt protrudes out the nut side approx 2.5mm. Cutting the bolt or adding washers to the other side easily fixes this problem. Also the base of the frames has too much flexibility. There needs to be a couple cross supports added to give the frame some rigidity. For instance, when I have started the machine you can easily twist the frame with your hand and hear the fan rub. I don't care for this. Admittedly it doesn't seem to affect its flight characteristics.

Ken B
08-30-2001 Over year old.
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richardf
Veteran
Location: San Diego, CA Posts: Billions and Billions

The 50

So far I'm very pleased with the Sceadu 50. Tonight I pulled the mounting post off and chucked them in the lathe and trimmed the end off and then lathe drilled it. I ran a 3 mm tap through after that and can now use the same thumb screws that I use on my Freya.

Richard.
10-23-2001 Over year old.
 
 
Ken B
Elite Veteran
Location: Phoenix, AZ

That's one way!

That's one way to fix em I do wish I had access to a lathe some times. I have 4 years experence as a machinist and havn't done a thing with it since I switched careers. Got tired of going home smelling of cutting oil. Now I smell like jet fuel!

BTW, I was a machinist before computer controls. I think I just dated my self.

Ken B
10-23-2001 Over year old.
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