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reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

I want to take a moment to address something very serious and compelling among our R/C Helicopter Community and that topic is fraud. It could be fraud in the form of theft of merchandise, money and not fully representing a product that you are selling truthfully.

Before you place an order with any vendor/seller please make sure the vendor/seller does not have a history or repeated troubles and issues with other forum members that were never resolved and have been forgotten within no resolution. You are doing an injustice to our community as a whole if you continue to patronise their business if they have had issues with other members in the past. If you are in the slightest doubt of the potential seller's character and honesty please ask a question on this or other forum's and DO NOT purchase from them if the response is more than one problem associated with that seller. Remember ONE problem with a seller is NOT a reason to not do business with them. When you have a repeated pattern of problems and issues then you should be weary of any transaction with them. If they are rude and uncopoertive with you and others then they really do not care about your business. Spend your hard earned money somewhere else. Try not to do business with people in other countries if there is a pattern of problems with them too. You will have a harder time of getting peaceful resolution with individuals in other countries. Remember all countries do not share the same laws and judicial system.

If your order has been placed and you have received your merchandise please check to make sure what you have ordered is what you have indeed received. If the merchandise is NOT what you ordered, please make every attempt to reach out to the vendor/seller to resolve the issue. Please be patient as well. This business as a whole is very hectic with fun flys and trade shows taking place for most of the year. If you do not hear from them in a day or two do not panic. Perhaps a waiting period of a week or so is good. If you can not get satisfaction from this route please post your problems here and at other forums so that other members can be warned about the fraudulent seller. Your voice must be heard. In the interim you should try every legal avenue available to you that will not make you poor as in filing a complaint with your State Attorney General/Local Fraud Administrator and also your local Better Business Bureau. I have seen too many people get scammed by unscrupulous people that hide their true colours behind a smoke screen of honesty. Do not be afraid of retribution from any of your fellow forum members or club members if you speak out against someone they find popular and likeable. In this day and age we must uphold truth, honesty and the faith that will prevail over fraudulent individuals and their dishonest actions. Thanks for your attention to this matter and have a pleasant day.

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
06-28-2004 Over year old.
 
 
BladeRunner
Elite Veteran
Location: Ontario Canada. Member of "some sort" s

You make some valid points......but your tag line says something completely different!!......... Just messin' with ya....
06-28-2004 Over year old.
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

That is funny! My tag line stole my thunder.

Seriously though...this is very important to me as I am sure it is to you. EASY!

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
06-28-2004 Over year old.
 
 
RotorX
Key Veteran
Location: London

it was funny to read all that and then see the tag saying fly it like you stole it, for a select few that is probally true.
06-28-2004 Over year old.
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

 Make my day!

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
06-28-2004 Over year old.
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

TTT

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
06-29-2004 Over year old.
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

Janek,
I posted that not as a link with the issue but as a reminder of what can happen. No doubt now this will be deleted. Thank you for mucking that up. I also brought this up as an added thought for future reference. You see we do not fully think about these things until it is all too late. Maybe now some people will have a better understanding of what can happen. People take too many things for granted and I for one would like everyone to be on the same page and the same level playing field. I enjoy this hobby and it would be nice to see everyone having a good relationship whether you are a buyer or a seller.

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
06-29-2004 Over year old.
 
 
reddragon
Key Veteran
Location: Brooklyn, N.Y.

This is an issue that always needs to be addressed. It is an informative thread.

Hold on a minute Man. I will not get into a match with you on this one. I told you what it was in good faith and you turn around and tell me it's something else? My words are my words and not your own. By you calling attention to this you and attaching the issue you will just make matters worse. Maybe when you have some issues you can just stay at home and say nothing. Don't ask for help. Maybe that is the way you would like matters. This is your opinion though and I will leave it alone.

Wayne -- Fly it like you stole it!
06-29-2004 Over year old.
 
 
Sp00ky
Senior Heliman
Location: CHRISTCHRUCH, NZ

eeep

Christ, get a grip you two

By now I think everyones aware of the issues that youve adressed, I cant imagine theres many people that havent read the other posts.

Tact dosent detract from the fact that your still snivelling about it.

It dosent matter how you word it, most people are going to put two and two together. Mabey the timing was off, i dont know, but surely you could see the avenue this one was going to go down given the heated debate on the other?

Man.. why cant people get along?
07-02-2004 Over year old.
 
 
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