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Main Discussion > 9chf or 8301 ??????

hobeeami
Heliman
Location: mt.sterling ky

9chf or 8103 ??????

which of these radios do you all prefer.im deciding between these two.name some good and bad points on comparing them..

11-25-2001 Over year old.

Buzzin Brian
Elite Veteran
Location: College Station, Texas

8103

I love my 8103. But I will not say that there is anything wrong with Futaba at all. There are a few of the guys that I fly with that have the Futaba virus. For me though the 8103 is it

I love the menue on this thing. It is almost to easy to program. And I love being able to actually see the curves as they are, and not just the values, I.E. numbers only. Smooth sticks, digital trims, and just about any other goodies you could want. This babby is dificult to out grow for sure

Wouldn't give it up for nothing (well maybe a 10X

)

11-25-2001 Over year old.

buzzkill
Senior Heliman
Location: Portland, Oregon. Astoria Oregon

I have had an 8103 from the start - and it has been great. I have had 2 crashes due to PCM lockouts though. Now i am not blaming JR, but the 'conventional wisdom' around these parts is that Futaba's are more lockout resistant than JR's (dual vs. single conversion - not sure). Of course, the folks telling me this all fly Futaba and they have never heard of a Futaba locking out (hehe).

Last year I had some $$$ burning a hole in my pocket and I seriously considered trading my 8103 in on a 9z or a 10x. But once I got down to it I couldn't justify it - besides the 'pretty things work better' premise. So I bought a Xcell 99SE instead :-)

So if I was to start out fresh today I would consider the new 9 ch Futaba for the extra channel. With a modern gyro and governor 8 channels are all used up. with the 9th channel you could be cool like RunRyder and setup your GV-1 to have full range RPM control :-) It can be helpful as a beginner to use equipment that your 'helpers' are familiar with.

My take is that Futaba needed to respond to the JR 8103 market since the 8U wasn't cool enough. Sure, once you get your curves setup you don't really use the graphic display too much, but it is *alot* easier for a beginner to see things visually (at least it was for me). And once you start using a GV-1 who needs curves anyway (just kidding - make sure you understand them and setup them up correctly in case the GV-1 fails in flight).

The one complaint I have about the 8103 is that the back case seems to break - mine has broken twice at the charging jack. But I send mine in every year for a tune up and get that part fixed then. Also, don't let them get rained on or the display with fog up (permantently).

Can you 'mix and match' a custom Futaba radio setup like you can with JR? A 9C PCM with digital servo's would be a nice setup.

g

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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hobeeami
Heliman
Location: mt.sterling ky

radios

doesnt the new 9c also have the visual curves displayed?the 9c is a little cheaper and tje extra channel.im leaning toward getting it

11-25-2001 Over year old.

Vance
Veteran
Location: York ,PA

Questions?

How about some real questions that we'll face when flying our heli's??? Does either radio NOT overdrive the servos when using a mix(I.E.- cyclic to throttle) How many mixes are left after setting up Ail & Ele. to throttle mixing? Can either one be charged without any charger diode bypass?
VD

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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butch r
Senior Heliman
Location: Alma, Kansas

hobeeami, go to yahoo talk group, sign up and read the posts and ask questions at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/9cfutaba
As far as the overdrive there are work arounds to prevent that (according to the posts I have read), haven't experienced that yet.
If you need more mixes with either radio then your option is to buy a 10x, 9z or 9c

11-25-2001 Over year old.

Dyehard
Veteran
Location: Cedar Bluff, Va.

None of the JR radios with an X in the name have a diode in the charging circuit. If I remember correctly, both the 9C and the 8103 have three free mixs, so you will have one mix left over after you mix aileron and elevator to throttle. If you need more, the 10X has 10 mixs per model, the 9Z has 40 per model. The only two radios that I know of that don't overdrive the throttle when mixing to the cyclics are the 10X and 9Z. While you can work around the problem with the others, it's a pain.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

Dr.Tim
Key Veteran
Location: Mojave Desert

JR 8103

I've flown with Futaba for about 30 years but, I prefer the FEEL of the JR Radio. I do not believe that there is much of a difference in these radios except for the feel and looks -- sort of like a Ford or Chevy. It's up to the way you prefer to think about Radios and the way you fly -- I really Like my JR 8103 and Feel Proud to Own what I Call THE BEST!
Dr.Tim

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11-25-2001 Over year old.

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JeepCJ
Key Veteran
Location: Pennellville NY (Syracuse Heli Group)

radio

Does the new 9 channel Futaba have 3 free mixes like the JR 8103?

Bob

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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Joel
Senior Heliman
Location: Columbia, MS

comparison

I just thought I would post a link-if I do it right http://www.futabarc.com/radios/feature-compare.html
I know this is comparing futaba to futaba but it makes it easier to see all the stuff it (9c) can do. I'm glad I don't have to decide b/w brands because I will stick with what I got (futaba) but I am trying to decide if I should get a 9ch or stick with my 8uAf, b/c I am worried about never being able to get a heli radio if I get used to the A-version b/c the switches are the opposite.
Joel

11-26-2001 Over year old.

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