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butch r
Senior Heliman
Location: Alma, Kansas

Hello everyone. Had plans to get a 401 and 9253 coming. Was quoted a very good price on a combo, but was an out of state hobby shop. Not helihut. Thought I would throw a bone at my LHS and not suprising they were the cheapest. But they tell me later after confirming the price and availibilty that their supplier does not have them and dosen't expect any till after the first of the year. They told me in this perticular situation that in the past when something like this has happened it was because of perhaps a revision in that product. I have also read of some other possibilities concerning the availibility of the 401 but not enough to comment. Anyone have any ideas or heard anything? Also,I'm to call them later in the week to get more info on the matter. Will let you guys know.

11-24-2001 Over year old.

Rotorhead
Senior Heliman
Location: Spokane, WA

It is mentioned on this site , scroll down some to find it.

11-24-2001 Over year old.

Dave_D
Key Veteran
Location: Philippines

I read somewhere there was a shortage of some components, hence the delay.

The guys in Hong Kong are fully stocked up so I wouldn't give too much credence to the grumblings.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

butch r
Senior Heliman
Location: Alma, Kansas

Rotorhead, thanks for the link to heliproz news. Explains why my LHS can't get them. It's usually my luck to buy anything electronic and blink my eyes only to find the next day it was replaced by something better. I didn't know if Futaba was coming out with a new mid priced range gyro perhaps a GY402 or not.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

Optech
Key Veteran
Location: Vista/Oceanside, CA.

I don't think Futaba or anybody else predicted how popular the 401 would become. These gyros kick %ss. They are probably kicking themselves everywhich way that they didn't price them a few dollars higher. I wouldn't be surprised if "great planes" increases the price after the first of the year.

The shortage probably came from the "vibrating ring gyro sensor" manufacturer. From what I understand, Futaba just buys their sensor, adds its electronics and packages it up. I would sure like to see other manufactures make arraingements to build their own gyros based on this sensor.

Viva La Airtronics!

11-25-2001 Over year old.

ZZ3Astro
Senior Heliman
Location: Panama City, Fl

Excerpt from Heliproz statement on the GY401:

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........ We have a few of the 401/9253 boxed combos - no more until Futaba builds ands ships new production. For a slightly better holding gyro that IS available, take a look at the excellent JR550TC package at about the same price as the 401/9253 combo. (Call for price)........
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This hogwash has earned heliproz the rare status of being permanently REMOVED from my site's links.

steve

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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butch r
Senior Heliman
Location: Alma, Kansas

Yes, they are pro JR. But they always have provided me with great service. The remark about the JR 550 is a little disturbing. Just who can you trust nowadays.

A Futaba Fan

11-25-2001 Over year old.

Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

I've received great service many times from HeliProz ever since I've started in the hobby, but you just can't trust what they write on their news page. The above quote is plain BS. It has nothing to do with pro JR or not, calling the 550T a better holding gyro is just unethical! Everyone in their right mind knows that nothing touches the 401! If they keep posting BS like that I'll have to add some disclaimer to my links section about them!

This is not the first time they've posted BS on their site. I think they should concentrate on what they're good at: providing good service and decent prices. And they should really let go of the BS, it hurts them BAD in the eyese of the people who really are important.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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Dyehard
Veteran
Location: Cedar Bluff, Va.

Yes, Heliproz likes to hype up JR. Acording to them the 10X has ten points on the throttle and pitch curves and you can put them where you want. Not exactly correct. On Ron Lund's site, if you go into the comparison page, he give what I would call some not correct information, but he plainly states that this is his opinion, and also states that everyone should know about opinions.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

sluggo
Elite Veteran
Location: Kitchener Ont

550T

Ok how many of you have flown the 550 for more then one flight ? I am not saying it is better then a 401 or worse but I had a 550T for a long time and it locked in great! Just as good as my new gy502. The problem with the 550 is it drifts like a peice of crap!

I love my new gy502 not because it holds better then the 550 did but there is no drift EVER! The 550 also takes a long time to set up right and doesn't handle temp changes and engine mixture changes at all. But it did hold great! so I really don't see a problem with what they where saying at all.

I am not trying to start a flame war here but just a little info from some one who has been on both sides of the fence.

Chris

TeamFlightpower / Teambob00

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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Dyehard
Veteran
Location: Cedar Bluff, Va.

Sluggo, I agree with you, one should look at both sides of the fence, but a lot of flyers, especially new ones, look at Heliproz's and Ron Lunds sites and take everything they see as gospel. They haven't yet learned that the best and most reliable information usually comes from other flyers, not from some advertizers site. If Heliproz had said, hey, this other gyro lock in just as well, but may have a little drift, that would be honesty, but they only give you the part of the story that they want you to know, so it's just advertizing. Let the buyer beware.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

sluggo
Elite Veteran
Location: Kitchener Ont

Very true and well said dyehard! I agree they should show you both sides of a story and leave it up to you to deside on it but they are out for them selfs and want to sell you everything they can and I am sure they are looking for the newbies when they post something like that on there web site.

Chris

TeamFlightpower / Teambob00

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

Hey, even I started to wonder

And they actually say that the 550T holds BETTER than the GY401.

11-25-2001 Over year old.

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winger
Senior Heliman
Location: Indiana

550T

I had one. Being new to HH gyro I was baffled. I never could get it to work right.

I spent an hour on the Phone to a guy in NJ having him explain it to me,(OBTW I'm not stupid or anything like that; but don't ask my wife), and set my 10X to the same settings. It flew like a POSh.

I sold it an bought the GY401 and S9253 Servo. I was able to understand it. It works great even with the brand X system(JR).

Rick's had/has a note on their web site about the 550T, stating that they had curtis try and make it funcion properly, to no avail. And they would only order one if you really had to have one. FYI

So I can say I'm sold on the GY401.

Regards,

Winger

11-26-2001 Over year old.

freestyle
Veteran
Location: Redmond WA USA

Re: 550T

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Originally posted by sluggo Ok how many of you have flown the 550 for more then one flight ? I am not saying it is better then a 401 or worse but I had a 550T for a long time and it locked in great! Just as good as my new gy502. The problem with the 550 is it drifts like a peice of crap!

It locked in great... but drifts like a piece of crap?

A short little tall guy once told me the same thing about his super-fast car that couldn't get above 53mph. 'Scuse me while I take a long walk down a short pier.

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Nate "cheerful pessimist" Waddoups
Redmond WA USA

11-26-2001 Over year old.

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SkyKing
Senior Heliman
Location: Belvidere, Ill

I agree Nate! I had a CSM 540 that drifted I would not even consider saying it locked in great when you had to screw around with the trim because it drifted differently every flight. Same thing with a Telebee I switched to Futaba gyros and found out what locked in really is.

11-26-2001 Over year old.

Greg Takacs
Veteran
Location: Fort Worth, TX

I've had the Teletubby before the 401, and I must say that I was constantly jacking with the rudder trim just to get it to stop drifting.
Once I put the GY401 in there I have yet to touch the rudder trim. The 401 is clearly amazing and I would not go back to the Teletubby ever again!

11-26-2001 Over year old.

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Dyehard
Veteran
Location: Cedar Bluff, Va.

I guess I would have to agree with Chris, how a gyro locks and drift are not exactly the same thing. I have an ICG 360 on a Raptor 30, I can take it up several hundred feet and either tailslide it most of the way to the ground or do a rolling tailslide most of the way to the ground and it doesn't kick out , wag the tail or do anything funny, so I would say it locks pretty good. But, I very seldom get through a flight that I don't have to trim the tail at least once. Just the nature of the beast. Now my old GY 501 never drifts, but it never locks in as well as the 360 or my Arcamax Interface does. I had to put speed up gears in the tailbox and use the longest tail blades I could fit to get in even close to the Arcamax, so I think Chris is right, you can have a gyro that locks good and still drifts in trim. I just doesn't make the best possible combination in a gyro.

11-26-2001 Over year old.

sluggo
Elite Veteran
Location: Kitchener Ont

Well said dyehard! The 550T locks great, I could do anything with it including huge sideways loops and the tail would hold geat but half way through the day when the temp cooled down the gyro would drift. It has nothing to do with its holding power at all. My main con with the 550 was it would drift from temp changes and engine mixture changes could cause the gyro to wag more then the futaba.

I find no differents in the holding power from the 550 to the gy502 at all but the 502 never drifts even in a 20deg temp change. Freestyle I understand what you are trying to say but the issue here is not drift but how well the gyro holds! I also had a csm 360 and loved the holding power it had but the drift drove me nuts as dyehard said having to trim more then once in the same flight is unexceptable!

So as for what heliproz has on there site really is not far from the truth but they forgot to leave out the drift thing and don't forget there is 550's out there that never drift and lock like there is no tomorrow and the guys in our club that fly them love them and would never switch.

Chris

TeamFlightpower / Teambob00

11-26-2001 Over year old.

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sluggo
Elite Veteran
Location: Kitchener Ont

I did forget to add one thing to this post! I don't know what they are selling the gyro for but I found the 550T to be alot of money for a so called entry level gyro, so as far as price goes you can not beet the 401/9253 and I am sure every one will agree on that!

Chris

TeamFlightpower / Teambob00

11-26-2001 Over year old.

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