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Scale Model RC Helicopters > Getting ready to oder my heli and need some help.
 
 
Clint
Heliman
Location: Sunshine State....

Hello,
Im getting ready to order my Bell 222 heli kit from Heli-world. I have a few questions that I need help with. Heli-World lists 2 mufflers for a scale. Do I get the "Scale Fuselage HP muffler (30-38)#CN3058 or the Scale Hi-Per Box type muffler (O.S)#CN3060? I will be using the O.S 32 engine. My next question is
the starting of the heli. I have a the starting shaft from my Sceadu (I havent even put the darn thing together yet) can I use it or is there something else I need to buy? The reason why Im asking is that everytime I order a bunch of suff they sell me on everything else.**LOL** Ive been asked soooo many times (Why did you buy that? You didnt need it.) So I thought I would ask you guys first. This is what I have so far that im going to order.I already have a Radio a Airtronics 6000 super.
1. Bell 222 Kit
2. O.S 32 Engine
3. 7 servos (943222z X 6 2102X1
4. Gyro (JRPG 410T)
5. Muffler
6. Receiver
7. Receiver battery 1400
If there is anything else you feel I need please email me. Im very new to this hobby. (Like I said before I have a Sceadu 30 I bought a month ago and have not built it yet.) Going to start next week
Thanks you guys VERY much for your time and help.
05-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Joss Stick
Senior Heliman
Location: Fayetteville, WV

Top Cone

According to the discription on the 222 it uses a Top Cone. If I'm not mistaken, you wouldn't use the wand but you would use the starter cone like on a spinner on a plank. Now I could be wrong on this and I'm sure someone else will come along and correct me.

Not familier with Airtronics Supers. Is it a Heli Radio? There is a difference between plank and heli radios.

Hope this little bit helps some. Good luck. I just ordered the same heli not 10 minutes ago.
05-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Clint
Heliman
Location: Sunshine State....

scale heli

I hope my radio is for a heli...*LOL* I bought it from Heli-Proz. What all did you get for your heli? Whom did you order it from? Heli-World?
05-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Phil Cole
Veteran
Location: Redwood City CA

The 3058 muffler will do for the .32.

I'd check to see if a standard muffler will fit first, though. I think there's a good chance with the 222. Standard mufflers certainly fit in the Airwolf. The scale mufflers tuck in beside the engine, blocking access to the low speed needle. They are good if you are tight on space, but otherwise the standard 3033A type muffler (or similar Hatori or KSJ) is easier to live with.

You will need to tune the engine with a standard muffler anyway, or take the box muffler off for every idle mixture adjustment.

My Airwolf kit came with a hex start, so the Sceadu probe should work. A cone-start would require a large, ugly hole in the top of the bodywork.

Without a one-way bearing in the start probe you need to be quick with your hands once the engine starts. You need to disengage the start shaft in the heli from the fan the moment the engine starts, release the starter switch, wait for the starter to spin down, and then withdraw the probe from the hex coupling, in that order. It's not that hard, but you have to be ready for it.

With the one-way, you can just release the switch and withdraw the starter at your leisure.

Removing the probe from the coupling while the starter is spinning is to be avoided, since the probe can damage the bodywork, or fly free from the starter cup.

Does the gyro require a gain control channel? The RD6000 has only six channels, which you will need for cyclic(2 ch), collective, throttle, rudder, and retracts.

Ability to set ATV for the retract channel will be handy if you use normal servos. If you use retract servos, setting radio ATV will have no effect, you will need to mess with the arm lengths to get the retracts set up properly. You'll be doing this to some extent anyway, I guess, since you have only one channel for the front and rear retract servos.

You will need a y-lead for the retract servos.
05-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
Clint
Heliman
Location: Sunshine State....

Thanks guys......

I wanted to thank you guys for the info you have given me. Its helps out ALOT!! Again,
Thanks
05-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
vetrider
Elite Veteran
Location: Daleville, AL (Ft.Rucker)

Phil Cole has it right!

You should have very little problem using the cen 3033A. That's what I got for mine and it does fit ok.

I don't know about the JR gyros but if you don't plug-in the sense wire that comes with it you should be able to set the gain with an adjustment on the gyro itself.


Make sure you do this mod to the Tail Rotor.
Modification

I've had to do it to the Raven 30/46/50 and my 222 kit hawk III mechanics. I found out about this when I broke a TR slide yoke while waiting to take off again. All of a sudden one TR blade when flip flopping around on it's own.

Build that Sceadu first and ENJOY it while you take you time on the 222 Kit.

Good luck

Nolan Manley
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05-10-2002 Over year old.
 
 
hoh
Heliman
Location: Viva Las Vegas

Clint.
Good choice... Welcome to the club.
I built Bell-222 six months ago, now I just finished my AirWolf and ready to test fly.
Phil Cole is right, you better of with the Cen3058 Box type muffler. But for Airwolf you can use regular Century Torpedo muffler, the Airwolf has more space.
I have some pictures of my Bell222 here, including the muffler area.
http://www.homanns.com/handihomann/hobby/bell222.htm

ps. It flies soooooo good...................

Have Fun
HH
05-10-2002 Over year old.
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